wsox8
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 11:01 AM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed)
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SB ($8)
BB ($25)
Hero ($19.70)
MP ($19.50)
CO ($6.30)
Button ($47.10)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, Q

.
Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1,
CO raises to $6.3,
Button raises to $14,
2 folds, Hero folds, MP folds.
Results in white below:
CO has Ah Kh (one pair, fives).
Button has Jd Js (two pair, jacks and fives).
Outcome: Button wins $22.65.
oldirtyharry
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 11:26 AM
hmmm. I wouldn't worry too much about the short stacks all in, and it looks like the big stack is trying to isolate here. If it were me I'd likely push expecting a call from the BB with anything from 9-9 to kk-kk or AJs-Ak.
diamondhead
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 12:04 PM
Higher stakes game, yes probably a good fold. In the lower stakes, I think you take your chances unless it's a tight player or a player u have a good read on. It is a tough spot tho.
PimpRock
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 12:05 PM
I can understand your fold...
The more I try to contribute to this forum the more I realise the importance of reads / observing players.
If I rate these two players, I pass QQ for a buy in... If I think they are donks, I call and gamble.
+EV move is probably calling at this level as the hand range is much broader.
MasterLJ
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 12:16 PM
Low stakes suck. You made a good fold.
LongLiveYorke
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Let's play with numbers:
CO: 99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA,AT,AJ,AQ,AK
Button: 99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA,AQ,AK
We have: QQ
We are 43.5% to win against both, but we are 42% to win against the reraiser (against whom we will fight for the sidepot). This makes our equity (assuming we go all in):
Side pot = 6.3 * 3 = 18.9
Main pot = (19.7-6.3)*2 = 26.8
Percentage of the main pot we win + percentage of the side pot we win - how much we put in (our stack)
= (18.9)(.435) + (26.8)(.42) - 19.7
= 8.2 + 11.3 - 19.7
= -.2
I think this range is about right. Tighter ranges obviously will give us less equity. This looks like a fold to me, but it's probably somewhat close.
Actuary
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 1:44 PM
fold or push..it's close.
too close to matter.
its about 18 to win 25.
amarillotg
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 9:25 AM
haven't read results:
id push here. the only 2 hands you need to be worried about are KK, AA. i don't think he's trying to isolate the all-in short stack with either of those hands. he'd probably smooth call hoping to get action from you.
reading results:
maybe i don't suck at nl as bad as i thought.
XXEddie
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 9:30 AM
QUOTE (amarillotg @ Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 9:25 AM)

haven't read results:
id push here. the only 2 hands you need to be worried about are KK, AA. i don't think he's trying to isolate the all-in short stack with either of those hands. he'd probably smooth call hoping to get action from you.
reading results:
maybe i don't suck at nl as bad as i thought.
no
not with KK, he wouldnt want someone with AJ to have an easy look to suckout
amarillotg
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 1:30 PM)

no
not with KK, he wouldnt want someone with AJ to have an easy look to suckout
good point. didn't think about that. would you fold here?
Peak01
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 2:39 PM
At these stakes you have to push here. Don't over analyze these stakes. The range of hands these donkeys go all-in with easily justify a call.
XXEddie
Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 10:54 PM
QUOTE (amarillotg @ Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM)

good point. didn't think about that. would you fold here?
at 25 NL, no.
thats the big factor to me.
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