aim786
Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 3:07 PM
QUOTE (screech @ Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 5:32 AM)

Good analysis.
Few questions:
1) How many outs on average do you think BB has agianst me (given it is obvious he has QQ/JJ now)?
2) What range do you put MP and BB on on the turn?
3) What range do you put MP and BB on on the river?
Edit: Keep in mind they are reasonable. No one with a VPIP of >35 or a pfr% > 22. Afs range from 1-2.
1) I'm assuming you meant button. I think he has 1 J out if he has JJ, and 8 diamond outs if he has QxQd. So, I'll estimate him for 5 outs. This may be a little high though, as poker stove is giving him about 7% equity on the turn (abt 3.5 outs) with the ranges I've assigned.
2 and 3) I'm not changing their ranges that much on the turn and the river:
MP: AQs, AJs, A8s, AQo, AJo
BB: QQ-JJ, KJs+, KJo+
Against these ranges, here is your equity on the turn:
You: 35%
MP: 44%
Button: 7%
BB: 14%
Here's the thing though, and this is what I'm disagreeing with CM about (although you may be right!): I'd like to raise this turn.
I don't like raising the turn.
We have a marginal hand.
But we have some decent draws that could be best.
I would like to see this river.I don't think we have any draw really, other than the gutshot. If a diamond falls on the river, its hard to know if we are ahead or not. But raising the turn can have some huge benefits:
1) We may fold someone with the Qd. The Kd is likely not out there, unless BB has it with one of his KQ/KJ hands. However, we put tremondous pressure on the Qd to get out, and this could buy us alot of outs.
2) MP, likely the only player who can potentially beat us, may laydown the hands that beat us/split with us. This is probably more true if he does'nt have the Qd.
3) Finally, if we are called and a blank hits on the river, we can probably bet again provided that MP is out of the hand. Otherwise, we check behind.
Oh, and I'd like to take back something I said earlier:
It's an easy fold if either button/BB 3-betIt's not an easy fold, my bad!
Little off topic:
1) How do you do the multiple quote thingy in the same post?
2) Is there anyway to save hand ranges that I've done in poker stove?
For example, say I assign a range to certain players. After saving and reopening this file, will there ranges still appear in the "Player 1, Player 2, etc" boxes?