1/2 nl 6 max

Villian is in cut off with 150 minraises to 4.

button calls. I'm in bb and i call (I have K5 o)

Pot is 13 bucks.

Flop K Q 5 with 2 spades.

I check, villian bets 10. I check raise to 30, villian calls.

turn is a 2

I bet 60 and villian pushes all in for another 50 or so.

I call.

River is a blank.

Thoughts? Range of hands for villian?

1) I think fold pre flop.

2) I like to lead on this flop, although a checkraise is doable

3) I probably call the turn and if he has KQ / set then it is what it is, like I said, its a fold pre flop scenario for me...

4) As for his hand range... only really you can say having never played with the guy, but Im guessing AK spades.

This hand looks solid. I'd say you played it very well. By the time you get raised on the turn, there's no point even worrying about a range of hands, because you know you have to call anyway. Honestly, I'd say villian could have anything from TPGK on up.

This one is tough. The only likely hand you are beating is KJ. AK would probably not min-raise. I can definitely see KQ min-raising or perhaps 55.

You have to call no matter what on the turn so it's sort of irrelevant, although if I'm in your shoes I'm expecting to be behind.

I agree that I should have folded preflop. I called because it was only 2 bucks to complete the bet and I was getting 5 to 1 preflop. I thought that I hit the flop huge, I could take down a big pot.
Villian actually had QQ! Totally surprised me. Who plays QQ like that preflop?
In the future, I will fold big card crap kicker because even if I hit two pair, I could be beat by a better 2 pair or a set.

Don't fold when you flop two pair, dude. The guy got totally lucky to hit a set there.

Not really... the guy was never behind in the hand. He was lucky to hit his absolutely perfect flop I guess but it is what it is.

OP... I didnt mean to sound assish when I wrote that reply this morning, its just in my experience hands like K5 get expensive in a hurry... I know its a case of 5-1 on your money or whatever but playing vulnerable hands OOP just gets so expensive so quick.

I don't think you can get away from this hand very easily. I would personally be a little weary of the KQ since many people play that hand for a raise. So I would probably have been more aggressive on the flop and gotten a decision there.

To be honest, a cutoff min raise can mean a whole variety of hands. Lots of folks have this raise 2x or 3x the bb with the monster in late position to draw value. Perhaps he has a read on SB and thinks he's really tight and will fold to a raise of any kind and he figures you'd call with any two cards in the BB.



I don't think you can call it getting lucky when he had the best hand on before the flop, after the flop, on the turn and on the river.

It is however, bad fortune for op to hit the two pair when villian hits the trips.

Question about the turn bet: Are you afraid of being outdrawn or are you just expecting calls from a worse hand? Can you get away with another $30? And if he pushes then, are you still comitted to calling an all-in? (I don't know the answers). If yes, then a pot sized bet is obviosuly the best.

These are just questions, not answers. I think you played it ok except for the call PF. I think that if your goal is to hit crappy two pairs, then you might be better off letting him do the betting, or leading out on the flop instead of C/R. As is, you have shown extreme strength(more strength than the value of your hand) and should only expect calls from better hands on the turn. Unless, of course he is stubborn with TP, which I guess so many internet donkeys are....so it puts you in a tough spot. I think one of the hardest things about playing on the internet is differentiating the donkeys from the pros and playing in a style that takes advantage of both when they are sitting at the same table.

EDIT: Oh, and villain's range is KQs, KQo, QQ, AA, KK, 55, AKs, J10s in that order of likeleness. You are are basically never ahead when he pushes since you are potcommitted and he knows you're calling. Also, I have seen plenty of villains minraise with big pairs, espeically AA, KK. Not saying it makes sense, but I see it alot.

Yes, you guys are right, but he only smooth called the raise. Hard to put him on QQ there. AK or AQ would have been more likely, seeing as he didn't reraise. All's I'm sayin' is flopping 2 pair is a pretty good hand.

I didn't bet pot size on the turn because I wanted him to call with TPGK or even push with it. I was committed to putting my chips all in either way.

A lot of people will still have pushed all in with top pair because they see my turn bet as being weak. They think that I'm trying to steal the pot with a check raise on the flop because most players will make a continuation bet on the flop.

I still think that min raising with premium hands is just stupid. They are the same people that complain when their QQ or KK get outflopped by Ace rag.

In the future, I will not play these kind of hands OOP. It's just bad news.

Villian was a real donkey. After doubling up through me. He slowplays KK by not raising preflop. BB sees a free flop with J 3 o, flops 2 pair. Villian does not get his set this time but still pushes with his overpair and loses over 300 bucks.
Damn, I wanted to be the one to bust him. Too bad he didn't reload.