I am $teamed Rice

maybe i should have folded preflop

PokerStars Game #4835164083: Tournament #23911966, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Pot Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/05/04 - 22:01:44 (ET)
Table '23911966 21' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: mcmeece (1225 in chips)
Seat 3: LorDP (8725 in chips)
Seat 4: JOEYL1961 (3205 in chips)
Seat 5: chaseee (2635 in chips)
Seat 6: $teamed Rice (6615 in chips)
Seat 7: kingofkings (7225 in chips)
Seat 8: boomster (9840 in chips)
Seat 9: O_Chaos (4420 in chips)
kingofkings: posts small blind 75
boomster: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to $teamed Rice [7c 4s 7h Js]
O_Chaos: folds
mcmeece: folds
LorDP: folds
JOEYL1961: calls 150
chaseee: calls 150
$teamed Rice: calls 150
kingofkings: calls 75
boomster: checks
*** FLOP *** [4c 2d 7d]
kingofkings: checks
boomster: checks
JOEYL1961: checks
chaseee: checks
$teamed Rice: bets 750
kingofkings: folds
boomster: folds
JOEYL1961: calls 750
chaseee: folds
*** TURN *** [4c 2d 7d] [9c]
JOEYL1961: bets 2250
$teamed Rice: raises 2250 to 4500
JOEYL1961: calls 55 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4c 2d 7d 9c] [5s]
slowlyoozing is connected
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JOEYL1961: shows [9s 9h Qd Qs] (three of a kind, Nines)
$teamed Rice: shows [7c 4s 7h Js] (three of a kind, Sevens)
JOEYL1961 collected 6860 from pot
$teamed Rice said, "nice"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6860 | Rake 0
Board [4c 2d 7d 9c 5s]
Seat 1: mcmeece folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: LorDP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JOEYL1961 showed [9s 9h Qd Qs] and won (6860) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: chaseee folded on the Flop
Seat 6: $teamed Rice (button) showed [7c 4s 7h Js] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: kingofkings (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: boomster (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: O_Chaos folded before Flop (didn't bet)

You would be folding because you think he has what that beats you?

Of course you should have folded preflop. Could have avoided making such a vulnerable top set.


Villain is a donk to call off a quarter of his stack on a 4 outer, but he got lucky.


I wouldn't have put him on QQ99 when he spams the turn, but Ax99 with suited aces of diamonds I could see there.



Showing results sucks.

I'm just chimming in here to maybe learn something about this game (disclaimer).


So in that situation you would start trying to think of ways to put him on 99xx?

I would be trying to figure out why villain suddenly decided to push nearly all of his remaining stack in after calling a pot bet on the flop. Am I still ahead and trying to dodge multiple flush draws or a straight draw? Or am I buried because someone with 99 just put me dead to the last 7? Or is this a stone cold bluff?


These are the difficult scenarios I have to face when I play J774 and I actually hit a 7 on the flop.

It's much easier here if I'm playing JJ74 and I hit a J on the flop then a 9 comes on the turn.



Long story short, low pairs are a very dangerous hand in PLO because they make low sets and underfulls.

fold this preflop mostly. it isn't very strong.

you can't get away from it though. seems like the opponent might be cleverly playing a low set there, and waiting for a safe turn to make his move.
either that, or deciding to push a strong draw into a late-position bettor.

99XX is not impossible, but its one of a lot of things he could be playing that way, and its really the only thing you aren't beating.

you gotta call there IMO

thanks guys

i am an omaha donk, so now i know not to play those hands

Of course you can't fold here. In fact, you should invite this donkey to play you heads up.

Bad call preflop, fine play post-flop.