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Peak01
Hey guys,

Don't have a hand but have a NL question. I see that that at limit you should average at least 1 bb profit per hour but I have yet to find out what that average should be in NL. I have been playing 1/2 NL and have earned a bankroll to play 2/4 now but would like to make sure my average is at par before I move up. what is a good average earn rate at NL?

Thanks in advance for you're feedback,
MasterLJ
5BB/hour is pretty good. 10+ is crushing.

The personal goal I set for myself before I move up is 10+.

And just as an aside, if you're winning only 1bb/100 at limit or per hour you should not be moving up and you're barely scraping by at your stakes.
gooch
QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 11:59 AM) *
5BB/hour is pretty good. 10+ is crushing.


Would that be for all games, or only once you start getting to higher limits?
silicon
I play 1/2NL live but don't measure my success by BB/hour. I just keep track of wins and hours played and calculate and hourly rate. Currently I'm at ~$27/hr but I do take my expenses (mostly munchies and beer) out of that number so I guess the real return on the poker portion is closer to $30.

If I do the math right that works out to 15BB/hour - which would be crushing the game - however I only have about 140 hours in this year so I think it is a little early to tell if the win rate is sustainable.
krup24
QUOTE (gooch @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 11:04 AM) *
Would that be for all games, or only once you start getting to higher limits?



I believe it decreases as you increase in levels



For example at

0.1/0.25 NL I was winning 24BB/100 over 8K hands

0.25/0.5 NL I was winning 35BB/100 over 15K hands

at 0.5/1 NL I am currently winning 18BB/100 over 11K hands

So for me I make virtually the same profit / 100 at both 50 and 100NL but I'm sure as I increase my limits my win rate would go down simply because I'm not good enough
gooch
thanks krup, those are good numbers to gauge by, I appreciate that
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (krup24 @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 3:18 PM) *
I believe it decreases as you increase in levels
For example at

0.1/0.25 NL I was winning 24BB/100 over 8K hands

0.25/0.5 NL I was winning 35BB/100 over 15K hands

at 0.5/1 NL I am currently winning 18BB/100 over 11K hands

So for me I make virtually the same profit / 100 at both 50 and 100NL but I'm sure as I increase my limits my win rate would go down simply because I'm not good enough

Is "BB" big blinds or big bets here? That's really ****ing good either way.
gooch
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 12:31 PM) *
Is "BB" big blinds or big bets here? That's really ****ing good either way.


It's big bets apparently
krup24
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 11:31 AM) *
Is "BB" big blinds or big bets here? That's really ****ing good either way.



Big Blinds

I crush low limits, lol. This is why I stay at these limits and turn a nice profit.

I've take shots @ 1/2 and 2/4 and I play way too scared it really feels like too much money.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (krup24 @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 3:18 PM) *
So for me I make virtually the same profit / 100 at both 50 and 100NL but I'm sure as I increase my limits my win rate would go down simply because of better players.


FYP
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (krup24 @ Tuesday, May 2nd, 2006, 3:34 PM) *
Big Blinds

I crush low limits, lol. This is why I stay at these limits and turn a nice profit.

I've take shots @ 1/2 and 2/4 and I play way too scared it really feels like too much money.

I've had that problem each time I've moved up. (I just put in $x ! I can't fold now!)
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