.25/50 Nl I am utg with qd5d I call, mp1 calls, sb folds bb checks his action.

Flop is: 3d 2s 4d

BB bets 1$ into a pot of 1.75, I have played with him before, he is a good thinking player, probably best overall at the table and tricky enough to bet here with air or the nuts. I call, MP1 folds.

Turn is a qs, which is a great card for me, I have top pair, flush draw and oesd. THis is almost always teh best hand against villian and certainly best draw. BB bets 3 into pot of 3.75, I call?

River is Jh
He bets 8 into 9.75 pot, I call

i would have raised the flop if i were you. that is a big draw.

Comments on all streets welcome including preflop!!!!!

Assuming its 4 handed, PF call is OK presuming you have meta-game tactics in mind. But i wouldn't do it too often either.

Definitely would 3/4 pot bet that flop. Bet whilst you're probably ahead and stop him making these later (probable bluff) bets that leave you a little a confused and may end with you dumping the winning hand.

I would re-raise the turn, and dump it if he re-raises again. A re-raise will usually stop a large river bet if you are behind, but will also build the pot a lot of the times you are ahead. Possibly it could lose you value if they fold when you're ahead, but I'd rather take it down on the turn.

If this is anything greater than 4 handed then limping UTG w/ Q5 sooted is not very great. I honestly think if your gonna limp w/ this hand you might as well raise it.

When he leads the flop we need to take control of the hand right here. Reraise to $5 if he moves in I have no prob gettin my money in here. If he calls now we control the hand and I guarantee he checks it to you on the turn and you either take the free card or bet the pot both have +s and -s.

Please post stack sizes next time as well.

Yikes.

I don't limp UTG even 4-handed, Krup. I'm going to get raised.

You raise the flop for value, but are happy to take down the hand right there if villain folds.

Assuming you didn't raise the flop, you raise the turn. You are no longer drawing, but you do have 2 strong redraws. Still, if he somehow has made 2 pair or better, you need to find out.

Because we get to the river, our draws don't make it, and now our villain hits it hard. Are you good here? Eh. Top pair, weak kicker. BB could be beat holding an A4 or something, but he could easily have a weird 2 pair, having seen a flop for free. These are the sticky situations you put yourself in by calling with this hand preflop.

Pre-flop is bad... is this 4-handed?

On the flop, you are favored here against a ton of hands (coinflip with a set, about 45% to not lose against a straight (tie+flush)), I'm raising and will even put the other player all-in if he lets me.

Turn is a qs, which is a great card for me, I have top pair, flush draw and oesd. THis is almost always teh best hand against villian and certainly best draw.

You're in great shape against Ad 5d for instance.

Almost certainly. Aside from drawing totally dead.

Good luck.

***** Hand History for Game 4113027415 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 27, 21:33:39 ET 2006
Table Moderation (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: imsimba ( $54.70 )
Seat 6: Cpt_Crunk ( $54.45 )
Seat 4: GrinderMJ ( $51.80 )
Seat 3: Bluehawk14 ( $23.50 )
Seat 5: Pcbhist ( $48.72 )
Bluehawk14 posts small blind [$0.25].
GrinderMJ posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GrinderMJ [ 5c 6h ]
Pcbhist calls [$0.50].
Cpt_Crunk folds.
imsimba calls [$0.50].
Bluehawk14 folds.
GrinderMJ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 2s, 4d ]
GrinderMJ bets [$1].
Pcbhist calls [$1].
imsimba folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
GrinderMJ bets [$3].
Pcbhist calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
GrinderMJ bets [$8].
Pcbhist calls [$8].
GrinderMJ shows [ 5c, 6h ] a straight, two to six.
Pcbhist doesn't show [ 5d, Qd ] a pair of queens.
GrinderMJ wins $24.50 from the main pot with a straight, two to six.
imsimba has left the table.

I was not the qd5d guy, he was villian. when i saw his hand at river I was shocked that I didn't get paid off huge on flop or turn. Anyboyd play my hand any differently. Alternate lines?



It's possible to give sound advice without being a condescending ***

good luck

How about correct advice even, since our Hero holds the 5

How about correct advice even, since our Hero holds the 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif


That's a good point, sir.

many unsophisticated players are happy to call that turn, since they are not sure their pair is good, and if not, are only on a draw. it might not be the correct play, but i think the simplest analysis is in this case accurate. considering his excellent equity against a reasonable range of hands, not raising there is likely a mistake.

limping Q5s there is bad. considering we've already seen one significant mistake, assumping excellent postflop play is unreasonable.

also, anyone else find it really funny that the fake villain considers the fake hero "a good thinking player, probably the best at the table." humility anyone?

No good luck?

Thoughts on my hand, with the 56? ANybody like to try a check raise on turn assuming you don't know villains hand? Check raise river, bet harder?


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also, anyone else find it really funny that the fake villain considers the fake hero "a good thinking player, probably the best at the table." humility anyone?

Heh, I hoped somebody would notice that, just kidding of course