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Kaedin
Yea, bein great at $50 NL is like bein the hottest player in the WNBA, i know, but i just flopped set over set on a guy (First time ever) and before he called my river bet, the guy says to me 'i hate paying you off, i know you have an over set, but i cant fold it.

Keep in mind, he never reraised me on any street and called it cold based on his read of me. Spooky.


I know, no one gives a **** forum is down the street.
Dratj
QUOTE (Kaedin @ Friday, April 28th, 2006, 8:48 PM) *
Yea, bein great at $50 NL is like bein the hottest player in the WNBA, i know, but i just flopped set over set on a guy (First time ever) and before he called my river bet, the guy says to me 'i hate paying you off, i know you have an over set, but i cant fold it.

Keep in mind, he never reraised me on any street and called it cold based on his read of me. Spooky.
I know, no one gives a **** forum i hs down the street.


nah, he's not that perceptive. If he really knew, he would fold.
Kaedin
QUOTE (Dratj @ Friday, April 28th, 2006, 8:51 PM) *
nah, he's not that perceptive. If he really knew, he would fold.



I aint foldin kings preflop and i aint foldin a set? i dunno. He said it before he saw the cards.
Dratj
QUOTE (Kaedin @ Friday, April 28th, 2006, 8:53 PM) *
I aint foldin kings preflop and i aint foldin a set? i dunno. He said it before he saw the cards.



I guess you are referring to my previous posts with the former comments? I know he said it before seeing the cards but I'm sure that he has said stuff like that before and been wrong. The odds of set over set are about 1 in 100. He's worried about he overset, of course he can't fold andt hoping that he's up against 2 pair or an underset. Now, if he could guess what you had consistently, that would be scary.
Smasharoo
Calling when he knows he's beat is why he's a $50 buy in player.

good luck.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Smasharoo @ Monday, May 1st, 2006, 2:22 PM) *
Calling when he knows he's beat is why he's a $50 buy in player.

good luck.

Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?
Kaedin
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, May 1st, 2006, 10:25 AM) *
Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?



im sorry. if i flop a set and someone shows strenght, not only am i not folding, im probably gettin all the money in. I guess thats what shocked me the most
MasterLJ
The problem with $50 NL players "knowing," they're beat is that if they folded every time they "knew" they were beat they'd be mucking a ton of winners.
Smasharoo

Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?


Yes.

good luck.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Smasharoo @ Monday, May 1st, 2006, 2:41 PM) *

Have you ever folded a set when the only thing that can beat you is a bigger set?


Yes.

good luck.

Care to describe the situation?
Smasharoo

Care to describe the situation?


I've folded bottom set a couple of times against players who won't move in with two pair or an over pair, but do.

Not that big of a deal.

good luck
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Smasharoo @ Monday, May 1st, 2006, 2:52 PM) *

Care to describe the situation?


I've folded bottom set a couple of times against players who won't move in with two pair or an over pair, but do.

Not that big of a deal.

good luck

Do you feel in retrospect that it was a mistake to play your small pair to the flop in any of these cases? If the guy won't pay you off, perhaps we shouldn't call his raise speculatively.
Smasharoo

Do you feel in retrospect that it was a mistake to play your small pair to the flop in any of these cases? If the guy won't pay you off, perhaps we shouldn't call his raise speculatively.


I didn't say they wouldn't call my all in with an overpair. Just that they wouldn't lead-push.

Also getting paid off when you hit a set doesn't mean you have to get the whole stack for it to be worthwile, just 8x the flop riase.

good luck.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Smasharoo @ Monday, May 1st, 2006, 3:09 PM) *

Do you feel in retrospect that it was a mistake to play your small pair to the flop in any of these cases? If the guy won't pay you off, perhaps we shouldn't call his raise speculatively.


I didn't say they wouldn't call my all in with an overpair. Just that they wouldn't lead-push.

Also getting paid off when you hit a set doesn't mean you have to get the whole stack for it to be worthwile, just 8x the flop riase.

good luck.

Point taken, but 8x isn't quite enough. We're going to get beat some of those times we make a set.

The player who would never push with top two is fairly rare, so I thought there might be something specific about the scenarios that you could share.
mrdannyg
QUOTE (Kaedin @ Saturday, April 29th, 2006, 12:48 AM) *
Yea, bein great at $50 NL is like bein the hottest player in the WNBA, i know, but i just flopped set over set on a guy (First time ever) and before he called my river bet, the guy says to me 'i hate paying you off, i know you have an over set, but i cant fold it.

Keep in mind, he never reraised me on any street and called it cold based on his read of me. Spooky.

I know, no one gives a **** forum is down the street.


i think this has the potential to be a very popular phrase

kudos sir
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