Seat 1: ( 626 )
Seat 4: ( 172 )
Seat 5: ( 357 )
Seat 3: DrZebra ( 340 )
Seat 6: ( 200 )

DrZebra posts small blind [$1].
s5 posts big blind [$2].

Dealt to DrZebra J K

s6 folds.
s1 raises [$10].
DrZebra calls [$9].
s5 folds.

(22) 8 J 7

DrZebra checks.
s1 bets [$15].
DrZebra raises [$40].
s1 calls [$25].

(102) 8

DrZebra checks.
s1 bets [$50].

**comment: "I'm clearly not good here"

DrZebra calls [$50].

(202) 9

DrZebra bets [$240].


thoughts?

is 5x's BB standard here? i'm likely to fold that hand even short handed to a raise like that.

Flop is good:
turn: eh... very palyer dependent. i have found a lot of players I will be behind that flop action and a lot of players that are just trying to play tough with a small pair or ace high. I think it would have been better to bet the turn.

River: don't know the player so I don't know how often he folds here. A lot of players call TPTK here and a lot of players fold a set here.

????

Yeah 5x was std at this table, and this guy was pretty tight. On the flop, I thought I out-flopped him but by his call and turn bet he for sure had QQ-AA.

I am banking on the fact that he is tight enough to laydown less then trips here. I expect a call from any 8. (haha)

Caveat: he has to put me on exactly J-10 to fold, however, the play seems like nothing else.
(Although there's a small range of connectors he has to be afraid of--I think fold equity is enormous here.)

If you did hit the str8 would you push on a paired board? That is the question you should ask. If so, it looks like a reasonable play. I think I might play a rivered str8 differently, making the play bad in my repertoire.

Also, he does not seem too scared of str8 draws with his turn bet. He might have a boat. Or he could have weak foldable hand...hmm...

At first I liked it, but I am leaning towards no. What happened?

I don't necessarily like the pf call

Flop: I like it, he didn't come over the top we gotta like our chances with that

Turn: I think you need to lead here. You just reraised the flop and the bottom card pairs and you freeze when first to act. If he pushes here do you call? (cause he shoulda)

River: The way you played the rest of the hand I am not in love w/ the push but its a strong play, maybe too strong

Again, I also would of folded PF here. CR the flop is what I would of done as well. Lead the turn for 75 or so and fold to a push or large reraise. River, unnecessary, I'd rather check/call, you're getting more value. Actually, it's tough to say. I don't put him on the straight, but he doesn't put you on the straight most likely either. I agree with the poster who said that if you'd push a paired board when you have a str8, and your opponenet knows that, than it's acceptable. But I would of likely check called, depending on the size of his bet and my read on him. It's a tough situation. Perhaps he has A Q of hearts, or A K of hearts, who knows. I'd check/reconsider after I get his river bet and analyze it to decide whether to call or fold

Looks suspicious to me. The river bet seems desperate. He probably had 99 or 1010 and called.

I am not a big fan of the PF call, but it is 5 handed so let's say that's okay for you =)

I guess it would depend a little on your read of the guy. Short handed, he could raise with AK-AJ, KQ, AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 10s, 9s. If he's loose with A10, KJ, 8s and 7s. If he's even looser, perhaps Ax, QJ, K10, J10, 6s.

I'm going to assume that he can play the whole range of hands. His bet on the flop is either a continuation bet or he has some sort of pair. You can't really tell (again depends on read which we don't have). So your reraise is reasonable and perfectly fine. His calls which says it wasn't an outright steal. If he has KQ, he's chucking it here to your reraise.

What are the only hands that would make this call. Some folks would just call with trip Js, 8s, and 7s. I personally would reraise. AA-QQ is also likly to call. Any two pair would call. The made straight would call. AJ would call. So you're right in thinking your top pair is no good on the turn.

I think his bet on the turn says either 1. I'm not sure what you have, but I don't want you to draw for free, but I fear the straight and trips or 2. I have a monster and am trying to extract value. Without any reads I am leaning toward 1.

The push on the river makes sense if you're trying to repreasent a 10 or 9s (making 9s full of 8s), but it seems kind of odd to overbet the river for value. I just wouldn't be able to put you on a hand that made really good sense. That suggests to me this is more bluff than a made hand. I might put you on 10s or J 10, but other holdings like k10, A10, etc, don't make sense.

Now, what hands would I lay down? I'd probably lay down AJ, KJ in this case. I would probably lay down AA-QQ as well if I bet the way this guy did on the turn. Trips made the full house so those are calling in a heartbeat. So are most straights.

So if your read is AA-QQ, it's a reasonable bluff. I don't like it because your bluff is readable. Also, you have to assume that he thinks you will play 10s and J 10 this way (or maybe 8s and 7s). If he's tight passive, you can pull this off.

you're not folding KJ suited preflop in a 5 handed game.

I don't like the flop CR. call, see what turn brings and how he responds.

All hands except AA are foldable in a 5 handed game

LOL. I stand corrected.

wait for AA 5 handed guys.

Are you going to fold the turn if he bets again?

most likely.

or CR all in;)

Wow, no gray area at all huh? So why do you even call preflop in the first place?

I was joking. I rely on my reads. This is a good hand. I was objecting more to the default line that KJ suited is no good 5 handed to a single raise.