Seat 1: ( $408.59 )
Seat 2: ( $243 )
Seat 4: ( $228 )
Seat 5: ( $400.05 )
Seat 6: ( $323.86 )
Seat 3: DrZebra ( $133 )
s6 posts small blind [$1].
s1 posts big blind [$2].

Dealt to DrZebra J A

s2 folds.
DrZebra raises [$7].
s4 folds.
s5 folds.
s6 calls [$6].
s1 raises [$24].
DrZebra calls [$19].
s6 calls [$19].

(72) Q 6 K

s6 bets [$10].
s1 raises [$50].

DrZebra pushes??????
...I think I'm too short to think twice...(pf a little loose)

12 outs to the absolute nuts, with 1 of those outs killing all hands possible. This, plus fold equity will put you ahead most of the time.

Good hand.

I'm thinking AK and he wants everyone out of there, though QQ and KK are possible too, you've got 4 tens and 8 clubs to find and make it.

I'm pretty sure I'd make a go of it

Only qualm is that fold equity is zero because i'm short-stacked.
I guess that's my main question.
But I would still want to race right?

I fold to the pre-flop re-raise, but post-flop yes, I push.

We have very little fold equity here. We've only got $59 to throw on top of this pot. that doesn't make pushing wrong, but still we have no fold equity.

I think pushing is fine, my only thought is whether the SB is gonig to come along if you flat call. If we're sure he will, I'd almost rather keep him in since I doubt we make BB fold here very often and the SB would be drawing dead and sticking more money in the pot. in which case, we get str8 pot odds for the turn and river.

Btw, I agree with folding to the PF raise... but yeah, the money already committed to the pot via pre-flop raises makes this profitable (you are something like 48%). I certainly could see your opponent folding 2% of the time (1 in 50). There is fold equity there for AK... albeit miniscule.



I was torn there too (getting the other dude to come along). Calling here *may* be good, then jamming/calling the rest of your chips to anything but a board-pairing card on the turn. Somehow I don't think the initial bettor was even intending to call the $50 raise.

Smooth call to bring along seat 1 for our draw.... Growing our Pot Odds

Should you push, I think it's safe to assume s6 will fold. Worse case scenario is you're up against a set of K's, you're still only 2:1 dog. Up against AK you're 45%, KQ 40%, and AA your 45%. I believe pushing is the correct play here. I'm curious to know what happened. GL!

Why do you want S6 to fold? Since you are drawing to nut outs and have *nothing* right now, I agree with people that said calling is better if it entices S6 to call with a worse draw(10-J, lower flush). If he is on a lower flush draw, you lose outs, but you prefer him in the hand.

I'd only push if you thought you had fold equity, but it doesn't seem like you do and you being inthe hand and having a better read on villain, thinks so to.

If you prefer lower variance, you could fold since even with your draw I htink you are behind villains range, but I think you have sufficient pot odds to make calling a correct play too. You'd be forced to call any turn too. Although....you *may* consider folding if board pairs, but you are probably pot-commited and hsould call in case villain does not have a set. Reallt, this is one of the best possible flops you could hope for, so folding seems silly, since you called PF.

Easy call but not a push.

If you get there you will sure get paid because your short.

You want more money in because your short and because your drawing. The more the callers the better your pot odds is.

Edited: put it another way. You have zero fold equity. But by getting more players in you increase your pot equity. And if your draw doesn't get there, you might be able to save a few bucks although chance is slim because the raiser is likely to push you in on the turn.

I like this analysis. Our chips are gonna be in on the turn anyway might as well try and beef up the pot as much as possible.

Hmm... I'm starting to rethink my original opinion. I still think it'd be hard for s1 to call the $40, but I haven't been playing with him. Even if s1 doesn't call after you do, and s6 puts you in on the turn (assuming it was of no help) you'll still be getting 4:1 to call with one card left. Not bad. And if s1 does call, your pot odds will be even jucier. OK then. Next time I'll think before I speak

No need to think before you speak, all of us here change our thoughts/analysis time and again. Thats why we all post here for insight/knowledge.

what out kills all other hands

You're call preflop is a lot worse than anything you can do on the flop.

You say preflop is "a little loose," but knowing that and doing nothing about it saves you no money. Before you focus on flop decisions of what amounts to small variations of equity, concentrate on refining your preflop skills to the point where you know and implement the right decision on a consistent basis.

thanks,god

If you're planning to be all in regardless, I say call and push the turn. If you lose your nerve and fold a blanked turn, push it all in now.

Either way, tell us what happened!

not that it matters, but Ak dodges running jacks and 12 outs twice.

Huh? My avatar?

You're welcome, I guess. lol.