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aadams_22
Clemens now says June 1 at the earliest.



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wsox8
I'm starting to get sick of him.. Make up your mind. He's like Brett Favre but the season already started.
Azreous
Favre finally made up his mind tonight; how long will it take for Clemens to make up his? October?

Who knows. But you're right, I wish he'd just decide already. This hemming and hawing is annoying.
pckt10s
He wants to play for a contender... that should give him time to decipher the contenders from the pretenders... that is all...
The Czar
His entire career he's followed the $$$$$$. He will play again, who's got a 2-3 year deal for the most $$? Look at his trak record. Always been one of the most greedy players. I'm not saying he is wrong, but...
timwakefield
QUOTE (The Czar @ Tuesday, April 25th, 2006, 11:38 PM) *
His entire career he's followed the $$$$$$. He will play again, who's got a 2-3 year deal for the most $$? Look at his trak record. Always been one of the most greedy players. I'm not saying he is wrong, but...



No way in hell he's gonna sign a multiyear deal.
oldirtyharry
...is coming to Boston
KowboyKoop
Is Clemens even gonna be that good when he returns? He looked pretty shaky in the WBC, and I don't know how much he is working out his arm now or anything, but I gotta think that whatever team brings him in might be expecting a little too much out of him and could be setting themselves up for disappointment.
The Czar
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Wednesday, April 26th, 2006, 12:29 AM) *
No way in hell he's gonna sign a multiyear deal.


I would think he would want at least a two year deal for the stability, but whether he plays out that long is debatable.
timwakefield
QUOTE (The Czar @ Wednesday, April 26th, 2006, 9:57 AM) *
I would think he would want at least a two year deal for the stability, but whether he plays out that long is debatable.



Stability? No, he's done after this season, if he even pitches this season at all. If by some miracle he pitches in 2007 he will probably pull this same mid-season bullshit and only pitch half a season.

I will bet you any amount of money that he does not sign a multiyear deal.
76clubs
Idk, Koop. I highly doubt that he will even attempt a return if he doesn't think he can be his dominating self.

Of course, I'd do it for the kind of many he will make I suppose....
MDXS
Hey look, the whore wants the largest per-year contract in history.

From BP:

"Reports that Roger Clemens and his agents are asking for the “largest per-year contract in history” are true according to multiple sources, though they are expected to pro-rate it"

(The link has nothing else to add on the Roger Clemens situation)

I want him back on the Sox, but he's still a fat, money-grubbing, ungrateful, sellout, ******* whore.
KowboyKoop
QUOTE (76clubs @ Wednesday, April 26th, 2006, 5:34 PM) *
Idk, Koop. I highly doubt that he will even attempt a return if he doesn't think he can be his dominating self.

Of course, I'd do it for the kind of many he will make I suppose....




Well of course if he comes back that he will THINK that he can be dominant..but I'm sure he planned on being dominant in the WBC as well...and he looked shaky at best. He'll come back, I'm 95% sure of that, I'm just wondering if whatever team brings him in will be making a mistake or not....
The Nuts
Clemens is a piece of ****. He'll wait to see how well Houston does and will then jump on the bandwagon in attempt to pick up another WS title.

The Astros should tell him to shove it. Clemens was screwing around with them all offseason. They should stick it to him now.
timwakefield
Considering that he is only pitching half a season, it's pretty ridiculous to ask for big money.

They could be like, okay we'll pay you 20 mil, but then we'll subtract 40% for the amount of time you were farting around with your family.

Okay, we get it, you love your family, now sign a ****ing deal.
princeof56k
I dont live in Houston anymore, but I did manage to go to an Astros game last week. While in town, I also watched several games on TV and caught the local broadcasts and sport pages. The word down there is that they are very optomistic that Clemens will sign with them. The Astros (management and players) love him and want him back. They say he's trying to cut the season short since he got a little tired at the end of last season. I dont think I believe all that, but that's what I'm hearing.

I'm a little behind on my Astros, but I'll catch up once the NBA is done.
wsox8
I don't think the Astros want to waste their money on Clemens. Their staff is doing very well right now and he just seems like way too much money.
digitalmonkey
Tomorrow will be the 20th anniversary of Clemens' 20-strikeout performance!

20 icon_eek.gif years!
diamondhead
i like Clemens but make up your mind or go home already.
wsox8
QUOTE (diamondhead @ Monday, May 15th, 2006, 9:31 PM) *
i like Clemens but make up your mind or go home already.

Thank you..
Trustno1
Clemens will sign with Houston next month. He is taking the time off this year so that he will be fresh for the playoffs.

If anyone remembers, last year towards the end of the season his arm was tired and he was not as effective hence the extra rest.

This is my opinion as a lifelong Astros fan.
wsox8
QUOTE (Trustno1 @ Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 11:54 AM) *
Clemens will sign with Houston next month. He is taking the time off this year so that he will be fresh for the playoffs.

If anyone remembers, last year towards the end of the season his arm was tired and he was not as effective hence the extra rest.

This is my opinion as a lifelong Astros fan.

but do you think he is worth the $4 million a month they are willing to pay him?
The Nuts
Clemens is being a cherry picker. If Houston had a losing record, he'd retire immediately no matter how much they paid him.
princeof56k
QUOTE (wsox8 @ Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 9:43 AM) *
but do you think he is worth the $4 million a month they are willing to pay him?


I dont know if thats what they are going to pay him, but yes, he's pretty much worth it. And it goes beyond just wins/losses.

For the winning part, the starting pitching has been doing ok, but they could still use some help. And the bullpen has been bad. They might want to move one of those young starters to the bullpen.

For beyond winning, you need a sense of history. Back in the 80's, Nolan Ryan was a star and he went to the Rangers primarily because the Astros owner at that time wouldnt pay. The fans basically went crazy. They hated and never forgave that owner. Some fans are still pissed about it. Drayton McLane, who bought the team from the old owner, is perfectly aware of this. The attention Clemens gets from fans in Houston is unreal. If the asking price isnt completely out of this world, I would expect McLane to do everything possible to sign him.
Trustno1
QUOTE (wsox8 @ Tuesday, May 16th, 2006, 12:43 PM) *
but do you think he is worth the $4 million a month they are willing to pay him?



Yes and as Prince said it makes good business sense. The fans will sell out everyone of his starts, and even if he has 80% of what he had last year, a rotation of Petite, Clemens and Oswalt will sell a lot of tickets and win a lot of games.

Oh, and Lidge is now aware that he has been tipping his pitches this season and will hopefully fix that and get back to his old self.
leftygolfer
Steve Phillips on ESPN radio this morning said he's gong to the Red Sox.

Should be interesting.
timwakefield
Eh, just rumors so far.
MDXS
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Tuesday, May 30th, 2006, 11:31 AM) *
Eh, just rumors so far.


And speaking of rumors, the current one is that he's decided to go to the Astros for 10.5 million. The announcement should be soon.

Heh...my favorite rumor getting passed around is that the reason he's waited so long (just about 50 games, right?) is that he got a steroid suspension, but the league wants to keep it on the dl. I cannot back that up with any facts...just hearsay and conjecture, which as we know are kinds of evidence.
digitalmonkey
http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/news_story/?ID=167392&hubname=mlb

$3.5 million per month icon_eek.gif
pockets
I am physically unable to listen to Steve Phillips because he is such a moron.

It's like that Simpsons episode where Grandpa is saying "I'm a Stonecutter!" and no one can hear him because of the lessons they took in not paying attention.

That might not have helped in clarifying my statement.
MapleLeafs
Now it's official

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2464315

1 year with the 'stros. Thank God.
timwakefield
Finally.
XX44466XX
Just glad he didn't go to New York.

Love my Yanks but come on.

It's bad enough already.

We got Damon ferchrissakes...
The Czar
Money, Money, Money, Money...Money.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (The Czar @ Thursday, June 1st, 2006, 10:26 AM) *
Mobney.



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The Nuts
$22 million for a half season in the MLB?

The Astros front office is insane.
MDXS
QUOTE (The Nuts @ Saturday, June 3rd, 2006, 7:13 AM) *
$22 million for a half season in the MLB?

The Astros front office is insane.


I think it's 22 for the season, prorated for how much he plays. So it's like 10.5 million for the half season.
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