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Ron_Mexico
So, I'm torn over this one. He was going to stay on the methadone so he could get another job and be normal, but once he was offered to stay, he figured he'd just stay sharp as a doc and a prick in life. I guess that lack of pain was good for his mental state, but bad for his doctoring.

My wonder is, and maybe I'm thinking deeper than the writers, but will Cuddy have a reaction to this? Will she be happy that he isn't going to be on the methadone and won't die from it or mad that he was willing to stay on it so he could be nice for others but not for her, what with his "this is the only me you get"?
Voldemort
Did not see that coming. Hate they went that way but they must have a reason.
Ron_Mexico
I thought it was an excellent turn of events. The cast is too bulky. People want to see more of their old favorites, Wilson, etc. I thought it was one of the better episodes.

I still wish they'd bring back the P.I.

Looks like a real interesting ep next week, with Cameron back in the mix.
Voldemort
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Monday, April 6th, 2009, 10:49 PM) *
I thought it was an excellent turn of events. The cast is too bulky. People want to see more of their old favorites, Wilson, etc. I thought it was one of the better episodes.

I still wish they'd bring back the P.I.

Looks like a real interesting ep next week, with Cameron back in the mix.

Agreed
LG's Touch
You guys are pigs. He was my favourite character. I just spent the last hour crying because I am too damn sensitive.
IQCrash
Ugh. Why couldn't the boring jew with the big nose kill himself?

GOD DAMMIT.
Velkro
QUOTE (Voldemort @ Monday, April 6th, 2009, 9:42 PM) *
Did not see that coming. Hate they went that way but they must have a reason.


And here it is.
Moneyball16
Wow. Very interesting. Good for him for doing what hes passionate about and not staying on tv for the fame and the money when he would rather be doing something else.
Voldemort
QUOTE (LG's Touch @ Tuesday, April 7th, 2009, 2:10 AM) *
You guys are pigs. He was my favourite character. I just spent the last hour crying because I am too damn sensitive.

I said I was unhappy!
Voldemort
QUOTE (Velkro @ Tuesday, April 7th, 2009, 7:49 AM) *

WOW, pretty cool. Thanks for that link.
Reelishymn
I wonder if House will continue to pursue his theory of murder. Will be interesting...
Velkro
QUOTE (Reelishymn @ Tuesday, April 7th, 2009, 8:27 PM) *
I wonder if House will continue to pursue his theory of murder. Will be interesting...


Don't think so. The picture of Kutner he was looking at in the final scene was supposed to show Kutner's inner turmoil. It's the sign that House was looking for.
Reelishymn
Yeah, I thought so too. Just wishful thinking on my part, I guess.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (Velkro @ Tuesday, April 7th, 2009, 8:33 PM) *
Don't think so. The picture of Kutner he was looking at in the final scene was supposed to show Kutner's inner turmoil. It's the sign that House was looking for.

True, but it also should go down as a possible "jump the shark" moment because they didn't allude to this AT ALL.
runthemover
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Tuesday, April 7th, 2009, 7:50 PM) *
True, but it also should go down as a possible "jump the shark" moment because they didn't allude to this AT ALL.


it was interesting that the last thing House said to Kutner last episode was "good work" or something to that effect. kutner had figured out the rat pee thing. maybe it was a high point for him that he couldn't meet again and that was enough. he was definitely an abnormal person. I mean he had praise from House on good work before but maybe that one was a step above. maybe he didn't have anything "new" to accomplish. remember he talked about "gotta have new". well actually the guy who killed Hoffa in Hoffa was the one who said it but yea that's what Kutner was all about. new experiences. maybe he had none left (in his mind).
Voldemort
LOL @ Wilson at the party!
Jadaki
Voldemort
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 5:07 PM) *

Awesome
Ron_Mexico
that would be so awesome if it had sound
rcgs59
next week looks interesting, House continues with his Hallunications of Amber then has Seizures something neuro going on, or is it the drugs
Reelishymn
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 5:07 PM) *


Haha, loved this part. FIGHT THE POWER!!

Good episode, just straight House vs medicine. LOL @ Wilson at and after the party.
LadyGrey
QUOTE (rcgs59 @ Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 9:29 PM) *
next week looks interesting, House continues with his Hallunications of Amber then has Seizures something neuro going on, or is it the drugs

You know what Rose, I actually didn't want to know what was going to happen next week. I prefer to just watch it and find out as it happens. I never watch the previews they show after the credits sometimes, and I turn off adverts that give clues about the next weeks episode. I want it to be a surprise. Please don't post info like this again.
Ron_Mexico
Oh yeah baby. Now we're cooking with gas. Good ep
rcgs59
knew it was the Vicodin, and glad to see he finally slept with Cuddy. too bad they didn't get deep into that part blah
El Guapo
OK so is he crazy or was it the pills? Did any of that episode even happen?
vbnautilus
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 8:38 AM) *
OK so is he crazy or was it the pills? Did any of that episode even happen?


I really liked this episode. First of all, it dealt with the split brain issue. I tested split brain patients as part of my dissertation, so this one hit close to home and was actually pretty accurate. Usually the closer these topics get to what you know about the more you notice all the silliness of the way things are portrayed, but last night I felt the opposite. The alien hand thing definitely happens, and the kind of testing they did with the visual fields is exactly how we tested their hemispheres independently. Even the description of the roles of the two hemispheres, while caricatured a bit, was mostly correct.

Wow at the ending though. I guess they are saying the whole Cuddy taking care of him was just another hallucination. While I'm commenting on the show's realism though the concept of a full-blown human hallucination does kind of bother me. Seems a bit ridiculous.
rcgs59
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 3:39 PM) *
I really liked this episode. First of all, it dealt with the split brain issue. I tested split brain patients as part of my dissertation, so this one hit close to home and was actually pretty accurate. Usually the closer these topics get to what you know about the more you notice all the silliness of the way things are portrayed, but last night I felt the opposite. The alien hand thing definitely happens, and the kind of testing they did with the visual fields is exactly how we tested their hemispheres independently. Even the description of the roles of the two hemispheres, while caricatured a bit, was mostly correct.

Wow at the ending though. I guess they are saying the whole Cuddy taking care of him was just another hallucination. While I'm commenting on the show's realism though the concept of a full-blown human hallucination does kind of bother me. Seems a bit ridiculous.



thx Vb for the info on the split brain. I knew some of the testing was accurate, as some of the information but wasn't quite sure on how the other part of it fit in till the end of the story.

As for the Vicdin hallucinations and coming down off any big time drugs the withdrawls as very nasty that's why I was very unsure it was that resolved. You just don't clear in one night. I was wondering if the lipstick was more the vial of vicdin. In reality patients can go though withdrawls for a period of days or weeks even. The most critical time being the 1st 2-4 days. When I was coming off benzo's for a sleep distrubance the muscles in my legs, thighs and guts ached for a good 6 weeks. Not to mention fine hand tremors, or irritability and lying in the 1st stage. They showed some of withdrawl symptoms but only the bare minimal. There are the aggressors as well. I have seen people fight like hell physically. it's a battle when you come off drugs, alcohol what ever it is that your dependent on that's why you go to a professional for help. There are also the dangerous withdrawal symptoms such as seizures, heart attacks, strokes, hallunications as in House and the DT's Delirium Tremems.

here an interesting web site just fyi for those interested;
http://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/withdrawal.htm
Piddle Duck
QUOTE (rcgs59 @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 5:36 PM) *
thx Vb for the info on the split brain. I knew some of the testing was accurate, as some of the information but wasn't quite sure on how the other part of it fit in till the end of the story.

As for the Vicdin hallucinations and coming down off any big time drugs the withdrawls as very nasty that's why I was very unsure it was that resolved. You just don't clear in one night. I was wondering if the lipstick was more the vial of vicdin. In reality patients can go though withdrawls for a period of days or weeks even. The most critical time being the 1st 2-4 days. When I was coming off benzo's for a sleep distrubance the muscles in my legs, thighs and guts ached for a good 6 weeks. Not to mention fine hand tremors, or irritability and lying in the 1st stage. They showed some of withdrawl symptoms but only the bare minimal. There are the aggressors as well. I have seen people fight like hell physically. it's a battle when you come off drugs, alcohol what ever it is that your dependent on that's why you go to a professional for help. There are also the dangerous withdrawal symptoms such as seizures, heart attacks, strokes, hallunications as in House and the DT's Delirium Tremems.

here an interesting web site just fyi for those interested;
http://www.addictionsandrecovery.org/withdrawal.htm


???
Balloon guy
QUOTE (vbnautilus @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 12:39 PM) *
I really liked this episode. First of all, it dealt with the split brain issue. I tested split brain patients as part of my dissertation, so this one hit close to home and was actually pretty accurate. Usually the closer these topics get to what you know about the more you notice all the silliness of the way things are portrayed, but last night I felt the opposite. The alien hand thing definitely happens, and the kind of testing they did with the visual fields is exactly how we tested their hemispheres independently. Even the description of the roles of the two hemispheres, while caricatured a bit, was mostly correct.

Wow at the ending though. I guess they are saying the whole Cuddy taking care of him was just another hallucination. While I'm commenting on the show's realism though the concept of a full-blown human hallucination does kind of bother me. Seems a bit ridiculous.



Hardly
General Hospital or one of the soaps had an entire YEAR's worth of shows turn out to all be a dream in one of the character's head so they could then bring back a character who died.

I hardly see how THIS is ridiculous
Suited_Up
I wasn't sure if the patient was real or if it was a metaphor for his real life and hallucination life.
vbnautilus
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Wednesday, May 13th, 2009, 1:42 PM) *
Hardly
General Hospital or one of the soaps had an entire YEAR's worth of shows turn out to all be a dream in one of the character's head so they could then bring back a character who died.

I hardly see how THIS is ridiculous


Well I have dreamed several entire soap opera seasons, so that does happen.
CaneBrain
My head exploded trying to figure out the last 15 minutes of the season finale.

if someone wants to provide a flow chart of what was real in that episode and what was not, that would be terrific.
Voldemort
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Thursday, May 14th, 2009, 2:30 PM) *
My head exploded trying to figure out the last 15 minutes of the season finale.

if someone wants to provide a flow chart of what was real in that episode and what was not, that would be terrific.

LOL.


Great last 2 episodes.
Ron_Mexico
I thought they spelled it out pretty well, with the lipstick being vicodin, the Cuddy thing not being real at all, etc.
simo_8ball
I thought it was a really good ending. The way it got your mind racing back through the episode and the one before to try and make sense of all of it was fantastic.
IQCrash
First of all, why is a thread called "House" on the third page when you search for "House." Preposterous.

Second of all, what a weird episode. Why does Hollywood always insist on giving awesome characters "growth"*? Seeing House fumble around and have feelings is not why people follow this show season after season. Very frustrating. Him rapping was both hilarious and awkward - I wanted to love and hate it at the same time.

The sad part is, all they had to do was add just the smallest little P.S. to the end of the episode to make it fantastic - have the german chick pick him up and fade to black on a shot of his million dollar grin. That's it. Bam. Instant House awesomesauce.

Still good to have him back on TV.




*That will be my last use of air quotes in this post.
runthemover
I don't know what you're talking about. that was a great episode. they couldn't just half ass House's road back to normal society. House knows better than to mess with that chick. David Webb would be all over his ass
El Guapo
I LOVED that episode. The last 20 minutes or so were maybe a bit too cheesy. But I agree with Mr. Mover.

The first half hour was the best where he was just messing with insane people.

I thought that he was going to use his "House" abilities to fix like half the patients, but I enjoyed where they are going with this. I think he is going to return and try to be happy then regress.

That is fairly realistic.
CaneBrain
Good episode. I liked the black guy who ran the mental hospital. Good foil for House.....maybe there can be a storyline where he gets to be on the show again.
Zealous Donkey
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Wednesday, May 13th, 2009, 3:42 PM) *
Hardly
General Hospital or one of the soaps had an entire YEAR's worth of shows turn out to all be a dream in one of the character's head so they could then bring back a character who died.

I hardly see how THIS is ridiculous


I believe that was 'Dallas' wasn't it?


QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009, 12:08 PM) *
Good episode. I liked the black guy who ran the mental hospital. Good foil for House.....maybe there can be a storyline where he gets to be on the show again.


I agree, of all the guest stars they have had, this guy is by far my favorite. I would like to see much more of him.
Jadaki
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009, 12:08 PM) *
Good episode. I liked the black guy who ran the mental hospital. Good foil for House.....maybe there can be a storyline where he gets to be on the show again.


That was Andre Braugher, who I agree was really good.

Lots of good guest stars on the season opener.
keith crime
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009, 12:50 PM) *
That was Andre Braugher, who I agree was really good.

Lots of good guest stars on the season opener.


Andre Braugher's been one of the best actor's alive for over 20 years now

nothing approaches him on Homicide

don't know why he isn't more appreciated
Randy Reed
I think it was interesting how the morphed the deaths of 2 close people into his mental disease. His lack of control over
being able to play God and see and control things attributed to his (inner) self realization that he couldn't deal with. Now
that he is "fixed" it will be interesting to see how they play the whole God vs House line. Does God win? Now that he realizes he isn't all
powerful will he be less effective? Will it lead to a relapse?

It will be interesting to see how the staff interacts with the new House as well.
El Guapo
QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009, 11:31 AM) *
Andre Braugher's been one of the best actor's alive for over 20 years now

nothing approaches him on Homicide

don't know why he isn't more appreciated



He was great in Duets. Right Ron?
runthemover
what did house say at the end? dvr did the devil thingy
keith crime
QUOTE (runthemover @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 11:51 PM) *
what did house say at the end? dvr did the devil thingy


I think he pointed out to cuddy that he was feeling sexual tension between them
vbnautilus
QUOTE (runthemover @ Monday, October 19th, 2009, 9:51 PM) *
what did house say at the end? dvr did the devil thingy


he said "hi dad" I think.. as if he was trying out wilson's technique of talking to dead people in order to feel better.
speedz99
Things: and stuff.
antistuff
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009, 3:55 PM) *
I think it was interesting how the morphed the deaths of 2 close people into his mental disease. His lack of control over
being able to play God and see and control things attributed to his (inner) self realization that he couldn't deal with. Now
that he is "fixed" it will be interesting to see how they play the whole God vs House line. Does God win? Now that he realizes he isn't all
powerful will he be less effective? Will it lead to a relapse?

It will be interesting to see how the staff interacts with the new House as well.


it was never about him being all powerful. it was about logic and reasoning emerging victorious over faith and creating a universe in which everything has an explanation. his problem was that those two deaths presented him for the first time with a something that he could not explain. his problem had nothing to do with god vs house, it had to do with house vs house and him allowing room for things in the universe that he just needs to let go of.

his inability to explain something does not bring god into the picture. there is no contradiction between a universe in which all phenomena can be explained and one person needing to let go of things that he himself cannot explain.

all of that said im finding the new episodes pretty weak.
IQCrash
Oh my...

It's a testament to how great this show is when they can bring back a beloved character and yet it's the last thing you want to see.
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