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amarillotg
bb - crazy maniac raising with any 2 cards and pumping bottom pair like its the nuts.

mp1 - ultimate calling station

hows the turn and river?

Party Poker 2/4Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, Q.
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB raises, MP1 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J, 6, J (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP1 calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, MP1 calls, Button folds, Hero caps, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB
The Nuts
I think it was played right.
Shimmering Wang
What's your question? I'd 3-bet the turn, and check/call the river.

If he's a maniac, why are you betting out in front on the river, when you don't want more than one bet going in?

If he's a maniac, why aren't you bombing the turn??

Think harder. or better.

Wang
Abbaddabba
Given what you said, not 3betting the turn is trashy.

Definitely dont bet the river against two. If it was just the maniac, i'd probably still check/call because he often bluffs with any two cards on the river if you check to him.


You dont have value against their ranges. There's a greater than 50% chance that one of them has a club in their hand. And for the most part, you dont get as much value from non-clubs calling as you lose from clubs calling and/or raising.
Wingmaster05
maniac raises the turn and the Ultimate fish cold calls two, and we have trips. Definitely calls for a three bet on the turn.
amarillotg
cool, thanks guys.

villain turned over 2 icon_suit_club.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif and took it down.
Zach6668
QUOTE (amarillotg @ Friday, April 21st, 2006, 8:41 AM) *
cool, thanks guys.

villain turned over 2 icon_suit_club.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif and took it down.

He raised you on the end with the just the deuce?!!??!?!

Can anybody say buddy list?
amarillotg
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, April 21st, 2006, 7:44 AM) *
He raised you on the end with the just the deuce?!!??!?!


this was an absolute monster hand for this guy.
Wingmaster05
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, April 21st, 2006, 4:44 AM) *
He raised you on the end with the just the deuce?!!??!?!

Can anybody say buddy list?


buddy list
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Briguy
On the turn, he had 11 outs to the best hand! What's wrong with that? (sw)
AlphaOmega
3-bet turn.

C/pay off river.

Buddy List.
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