Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, J.
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 2, 7, Q (7 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11 BB) Q (7 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB folds.

River: (13 BB) T (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Villain is 25/5/1.2 over 60ish hands.

I only saw hand were villain bet a flush draw first to act. still, In hindsight i think i should've called the rvier.

Anyone raise the flop either?

(note: this is a normal raise preflop for me. standard?)

I raise PF.

That changes the way the flop is played, but I'm definitely trying to jam it with 7 damn players! Our equity is HUGE.

I don't think I'm calling the river UI though... I doubt K-high is good often enough.

i raise pre-flop.

as played i would call the flop here if i thought there was a strong chance that mp2 would raise allowing me to get 3 bets in. otherwise i probably just raise it myself and hope to get some cold callers.

river is a very easy fold imo.

I see nothing wrong with this hand.

Pf doesn't matter what you do, as long as you don't fold.

Flop call is fine. A raise would be good also if you can expect a lot of player to come along for the ride.

Turn is standard.

River is a pretty easy fold. Yeah, he may have a flush draw, but he limped UTG and you the Ks, Qs, and Js are out, and the Ts gives him a pair. Any Axs beats you, so the only hand you can realistically beat here is 98s. That's one combo you beat, and like 100 you don't. 14:1 is no where near enough.

Not raising preflop at a table where this (billion players to flop) is just kinda silly.

But not raising the flop might be worse, given the size of the pot. You've got a good backdoor straight draw (4 cards make you open ended, 8 give you a gutshot), and a good flush draw. You're definitely seeing a river here, so you might as well and pop it, and clean up a few outs. You're still going to get a few cold-calls, given the size of the pot and the fact that these guys look like they play badly.

The pot's already sizeable on the flop (7.5BB), and it's going to get bigger. It's unlikely you DON'T have the best draw, so start ramming and jamming. And if a total blank comes off on the turn, you'll be very happy to see the free card.

So, raise preflop, and against loose/bad players, you MUST raise the flop. I cannot emphasize this enough. Anyone who counsels otherwise needs to rethink their reasoning.

Wang

When I raise, I always end up HU vs a set.

You're right. A raise on this flop is a must.

Not raising preflop is bad.

Not Raising when it gets back to you preflop is really bad, imo.

3-bet with 6 others with KJs all day.

Raise flop

Fold river.

Yeah that's what i was hoping for.




The table was tight until this hand, I wasn't expecting it.