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Just saw the trailer for this during 24. WTF?!? I'm moving to Canada...
brvheart




This is the movie poster. Click it to view the trailers.
doublemeup
I heard a lot of people are refusing to see this movie.

It hasn't even come out yet and its already causing a lot of controversy.
CardWarfare
yeah i don't know if i like this.. it just seems so wrong to me on so many levels
Don Giovanni
theres another 9/11 movie coming out soon
brvheart
Click on the movie poster and go to the site... the director has a long statement about the movie, which includes the approval of all the families involved.
CardWarfare
QUOTE (brvheart @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 11:44 PM) *
Click on the movie poster and go to the site... the director has a long statement about the movie, which includes the approval of all the families involved.


i understand that the families would have had to approve it.. i still don't think it's right though.

the bottom line is that someone made a feature film about this to make money. although I didn't read it on the site, i know i'll hear, "this movie was made to let the world know ..." no. It was made to line pockets and stir up more controversy.


i don't like it.
brvheart
QUOTE (CardWarfare @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 11:05 PM) *
i understand that the families would have had to approve it.. i still don't think it's right though.

the bottom line is that someone made a feature film about this to make money. although I didn't read it on the site, i know i'll hear, "this movie was made to let the world know ..." no. It was made to line pockets and stir up more controversy.
i don't like it.




Although this may happen, I disagree that it's the only reason for it. Haven't you ever wanted to make a movie about this or that in your life that you just KNOW would be awesome? Sometimes you just want your story to get out there, because you really care about it. Will some fat cats in Hollywood only care about the money... sure! But that doesn't mean the movie won't be powerful. Mind you, I hated how Paul Greengrass directed Bourne Supremacy, but he might just be out to make a good movie. Let's hope he uses less shakey cam. I almost threw up in the Bourne Supremacy.
wsox8
QUOTE (CardWarfare @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 10:38 PM) *
yeah i don't know if i like this.. it just seems so wrong to me on so many levels
chrozzo
they could have at least waited 80 years to make it like they did for Titanic
InsanityCubed
QUOTE (chrozzo @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 1:46 AM) *
they could have at least waited 80 years to make it like they did for Titanic


Please, they're already making a movie about the autistic high school basketball kid. I could take a shit on the street tomorrow and there'd be a multimillion dollar production next summer.
FullMontyM1
QUOTE (InsanityCubed @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 10:27 PM) *
Please, they're already making a movie about the autistic high school basketball kid. I could take a shit on the street tomorrow and there'd be a multimillion dollar production next summer.


Who would it star?
NortonFan
QUOTE (FullMontyM1 @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 11:40 PM) *
Who would it star?


Matt Damon.
Timdog1010
QUOTE (InsanityCubed @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 11:27 PM) *
Please, they're already making a movie about the autistic high school basketball kid. I could take a shit on the street tomorrow and there'd be a multimillion dollar production next summer.


In fairness, your s.hit is insane!

seriously, I hate the idea of this movie.

it's too soon for me.

I won't see it...
Mercury69
Snakes on a Plane is a better movie anyway...
CardWarfare
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 12:51 PM) *
Snakes on a Plane is a better movie anyway...


i love that your sig consists of a shakespeare quote, and a chapelle show/wu tang quote. icon_clap.gif
mk
What is it that Alan Alda's slimy TV producer character says in Crimes and Misdemeanors? "Tragedy plus time = comedy." This movie might be acceptable two generations removed, but not now.

p.s. flight 93 was downed by US fighter pilots.
Timdog1010
QUOTE (mk @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 9:16 AM) *
p.s. flight 93 was downed by US fighter pilots.


oh you're a troublemaker. That's what you are!

p.s. I love your sig...
turd ferguson
What's the big deal? It's not like they're glorifying the terrorists. Bottom line: it's a compelling story. I'm so fucking sick and tired of everybody getting their panites in a bundle over every god damned thing that might be even the slightest bit offensive to anybody. I probably won't go see it because it doesn't look like it's that well made, but I won't boycott it or anything ridiculous like that. What sort of pious asshole has any right whatsoever to tell someone that they shouldn't tell this story. Get off your high horse, and, more importantly, pull your head out of it's ass.
mk
QUOTE (Timdog1010 @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 12:25 PM) *
oh you're a troublemaker. That's what you are!


Lol, anyone who investigates the crash even a little will be instantly convinced this is true.
Farnan
I personally think it is in poor taste to capitalize on this tragedy. Am I up-in-arms about? Nah--i just won't go see it. They have the right to make this movie--and i have the right to make sure not one cent of mine goes to anyone involved with it.


Not to mention it'll be pure fiction since i believe it was shot down.
Governator
Why try to get people to relive this so soon after the event?

I know the ending and I know it's depressings, it's just not for me.
mk
QUOTE (Farnan @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 12:38 PM) *
Not to mention it'll be pure fiction since i believe it was shot down.


ding ding ding.
turd ferguson
QUOTE (Farnan @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 10:38 AM) *
I personally think it is in poor taste to capitalize on this tragedy.

Give me a break. That's what America is all about. If there is money to be made off of any situation, somebody is going to do it. Was it in poor taste to increase the production of American flags immediately after 9/11? I'm not telling you to go see it, but I am telling you not to bitch about it.
Farnan
QUOTE (turd ferguson @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 9:41 AM) *
Give me a break. That's what America is all about. If there is money to be made off of any situation, somebody is going to do it. Was it in poor taste to increase the production of American flags immediately after 9/11? I'm not telling you to go see it, but I am telling you not to bitch about it.


I'm not bitching about it--i just think it is in poor taste. If you paid attention to my entire post, you would have noticed that i fully acknolwedge people are going to do it and have the right to do it--as i have the right to not see it, which right i will fully exercise. Frankly i could care less. I'm not going to protest it, but if someone is discussing whether it shoudl be done---i'd say that i wouldn't do it, think doing it is in poor taste, and move on.

But capitalizing on a tragedy like 9/11 is not what America is all about. If that were the case, t'woudl be pretty sad.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (doublemeup @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 3:38 AM) *
I heard a lot of people are refusing to see this movie.

It hasn't even come out yet and its already causing a lot of controversy.


I'd rather see a disney movie because it would have more facts in it than this piece of poopy.

QUOTE (mk @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 5:16 PM) *
p.s. flight 93 was downed by US fighter pilots.

most likely

I just don't like making heroes out pure and utter speculation

QUOTE (turd ferguson @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 5:41 PM) *
Give me a break. That's what America is all about. If there is money to be made off of any situation, somebody is going to do it. Was it in poor taste to increase the production of American flags immediately after 9/11? I'm not telling you to go see it, but I am telling you not to bitch about it.


That is what we refer to as supply and demand, not exploitation.
Kuge
I'm going to avoid this movie, only because I know what happens in the end...and I'm not a fan of the protagonist(s) dying. It leaves a bitter taste...i guess that's why I hated Saw...AT LEAST LET THE MAIN CHARACTER LIVE!!! I'm too old fashioned... closedeyes.gif
turd ferguson
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 11:05 AM) *
That is what we refer to as supply and demand, not exploitation.

It's virtually the same thing. There is a demand for this movie. I guarantee that it won't bomb at the box office. Like I said before, if a situation arises in this country in which it is possible to make a profit, somebody will be there to reap the benefits. That's the way it works. I agree with your point that this movie is basically fictional, and it looks to be fairly poorly made, but I don't find it offensive. If the families of the victims were to denounce it as such then I would agree, but until that time I don't have a problem with it.
Farnan
QUOTE (turd ferguson @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 10:17 AM) *
I agree with your point that this movie is basically fictional, and it looks to be fairly poorly made, but I don't find it offensive. If the families of the victims were to denounce it as such then I would agree, but until that time I don't have a problem with it.


I certainly don't find it offensive. I just think it is in poor taste. My reaction is not "HOW DARE THEY!" and more like "I wouldn't do it--tis a little too soon for me"

I remember that event all too well. Walking in Times Square on the 12th and having it look like the part from Vanilla Sky where weren't any people in the whole area; walking down the middle of broadway w/o ANY cars and all of those "missing" posters w/ candles---NOPE, don't want a movie that is meant to ENTERTAIN me, bring back all of those memories. To that end, i think it lacks taste to sensationalize Flt. 93--maybe in 10-15 years when there are some people who didn't really fully know the details (i.e. too young at the time, etc.) and a movie could shed some light.
Timdog1010
QUOTE (Farnan @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 10:34 AM) *
I certainly don't find it offensive. I just think it is in poor taste. My reaction is not "HOW DARE THEY!" and more like "I wouldn't do it--tis a little too soon for me"


my sentiments exactly.

Turd, you're especially cranky today. Even for you...
turd ferguson
QUOTE (Farnan @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 11:34 AM) *
To that end, i think it lacks taste to sensationalize Flt. 93--maybe in 10-15 years when there are some people who didn't really fully know the details (i.e. too young at the time, etc.) and a movie could shed some light.

I see where you're coming from. Sorry if I came off a little grumpy. Also, to the bolded part of your post, this movie wouldn't exactly shed any light. It would just create a lot of misconceptions.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (chrozzo @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 1:46 AM) *
they could have at least waited 80 years to make it like they did for Titanic



They made a movie about this in the 30's, and then again in the 60's I believe. Not that it was 5 years after, but they also didn't quite have the production ability either.

I think the premise of this movie is fine. Are they going to profit? Yes. But so did Spielberg from "Saving Private Ryan." Everybody (well, not everybody) thought "Syriana" was ok, when it was basically fodder for terrorist propoganda.
Farnan
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 11:13 AM) *
I think the premise of this movie is fine. Are they going to profit? Yes. But so did Spielberg from "Saving Private Ryan." Everybody (well, not everybody) thought "Syriana" was ok, when it was basically fodder for terrorist propoganda.


Don't you mean munich? And you obviously didn't see the movie--because it was hardly terrorist propaganda.
InsanityCubed
QUOTE (mk @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 1:16 PM) *
p.s. flight 93 landed safely in Chicago.


Just as likely as anything else we've been fed.
Smacciemac
QUOTE (doublemeup @ Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 11:38 PM) *
I heard a lot of people are refusing to see this movie.

It hasn't even come out yet and its already causing a lot of controversy.


There was a made for television movie.. called flight 93 that aired like 2 or 3 months ago.. it was the EXACT SAME movie but different actors. I watched it and then saw the trailor for this when I went to the movies.. They were exactly the same..

I really didn't see a reason to make this movie except that in both movies, it is not to show you waht happened and relive the disaster.. it is to basically portray the hijacked passengers as Heros for trying to take back the plane..

Either way.. it really sucked to watch. It brought back some horrible memories from that day.. Then again every day when I walk out of my house and look right at the NY Skyline and see 2 huge towers missing that I l saw every day for 30 years of my life it brings back horrible memories..
aadams_22
There is something inherently wrong with the movie. It is almost entirely based on assumptions. No one from the flight survived and the only material they got were from traffic controllers and what little was on the plane's black boxes. How can they accurately portray what went on when they really don't know what happened on the flight?
doublemeup
QUOTE (Smacciemac @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 4:37 PM) *
There was a made for television movie.. called flight 93 that aired like 2 or 3 months ago.. it was the EXACT SAME movie but different actors. I watched it and then saw the trailor for this when I went to the movies.. They were exactly the same..

I really didn't see a reason to make this movie except that in both movies, it is not to show you waht happened and relive the disaster.. it is to basically portray the hijacked passengers as Heros for trying to take back the plane..

Either way.. it really sucked to watch. It brought back some horrible memories from that day.. Then again every day when I walk out of my house and look right at the NY Skyline and see 2 huge towers missing that I l saw every day for 30 years of my life it brings back horrible memories..


Thanks a lot for confirming this for me. Was that the movie on the discovery channel? Yeah I saw that. This movie seems to be the same thing but I didn't want to say something and get flamed for no reason.

I actually really liked that movie. Yes it brought it up terrible memories but it was touching and I actually got choked up at the end. That doesn't happen too often with me.
gkunit20
Meh. I might see it when it comes out on video, or if a friend recomends it. I don't like the idea of it though.
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 7:04 PM) *
There is something inherently wrong with the movie. It is almost entirely based on assumptions. No one from the flight survived and the only material they got were from traffic controllers and what little was on the plane's black boxes. How can they accurately portray what went on when they really don't know what happened on the flight?



This is OK. But no Farnan, I meant Saving Private Ryan. War, Americans died, etc.

And yes, Syriana is terrorist fodder. Dont' care what you say. Don't care if Syriana is an accurate portrayal of the world or not. It's very anti-american interests, right or wrong. The last thing in our interest is to have that sort of thing for arab terrorists to point at.
Pokergolf
The movie you guys are refering to above was on A & E and it was absolutely horrible........from the prodcution to the acting to the writers embellishment. I think they also did an hour long documentary on AA Flt 11 as well.

And I have to bite.........to the conspiracy theorists above........what exactly is your proof that FLT 93 was shot down?

Finally, to those mentioning other 9/11 flicks........the next one due out is by Oliver Stone. All the video posters and conspiracy hawks should have a field day.
Farnan
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 4:17 PM) *
This is OK. But no Farnan, I meant Saving Private Ryan. War, Americans died, etc.

And yes, Syriana is terrorist fodder. Dont' care what you say. Don't care if Syriana is an accurate portrayal of the world or not. It's very anti-american interests, right or wrong. The last thing in our interest is to have that sort of thing for arab terrorists to point at.


i thought it was thought of more of an anti-big oil company, etc. movie. Munich, on the other hand was the movie that, for some reason, humanized terrorists too much.

I doubt some movie is going to make a new terrorist---it may reinforce their already held beliefs--but our government does enough **** to keep them pissed at us for a long time to think a movie will make an impact.
InsanityCubed
QUOTE (Farnan @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM) *
i thought it was thought of more of an anti-big oil company, etc. movie. Munich, on the other hand was the movie that, for some reason, humanized terrorists too much.

I doubt some movie is going to make a new terrorist---it may reinforce their already held beliefs--but our government does enough **** to keep them pissed at us for a long time to think a movie will make an impact.


A movie that humanized human beings... Unheard of.
Smacciemac
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 7:04 PM) *
There is something inherently wrong with the movie. It is almost entirely based on assumptions. No one from the flight survived and the only material they got were from traffic controllers and what little was on the plane's black boxes. How can they accurately portray what went on when they really don't know what happened on the flight?


Actually many of the passengers talked to their families from their cell phones the entire time it was happening. There was a lot known about what happened on that plane.

QUOTE (Pokergolf @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 10:32 PM) *
The movie you guys are refering to above was on A & E and it was absolutely horrible........from the prodcution to the acting to the writers embellishment. I think they also did an hour long documentary on AA Flt 11 as well.

And I have to bite.........to the conspiracy theorists above........what exactly is your proof that FLT 93 was shot down?

Finally, to those mentioning other 9/11 flicks........the next one due out is by Oliver Stone. All the video posters and conspiracy hawks should have a field day.


No matter if the new one is Oliver Stone or not.. unless it is based on fiction it will still be the same thing as A&E Except better actors and better production. The story was told in the A&E one as well.. There is really only one story to tell and I will probably watch it as well.. I was jst saying that there is no need to repeat adaptations of the same movie over and over..
InsanityCubed
QUOTE (Smacciemac @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 11:01 PM) *
Actually many of the passengers talked to their families from their cell phones the entire time it was happening. There was a lot known about what happened on that plane.


Cell phones rarely, if ever, work on a plane.
brvheart
QUOTE (mk @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 12:16 PM) *
What is it that Alan Alda's slimy TV producer character says in Crimes and Misdemeanors? "Tragedy plus time = comedy." This movie might be acceptable two generations removed, but not now.

p.s. flight 93 was downed by US fighter pilots.



If it was, then the US military was doing it's job... well done US. On another note, who cares if it was?

QUOTE (InsanityCubed @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 10:04 PM) *
Cell phones rarely, if ever, work on a plane.



I disagree with this statement... I fly all the time for business and I use my phone all the time. Sure they tell you, "please shut off your phone, because it may interfer with the flight controls", but you only live once. And hell, it would be cool if my phone took down a whole plane.
InsanityCubed
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, April 20th, 2006, 12:25 AM) *
If it was, then the US military was doing it's job... well done US. On another note, who cares if it was?
I disagree with this statement... I fly all the time for business and I use my phone all the time. Sure they tell you, "please shut off your phone, because it may interfer with the flight controls", but you only live once. And hell, it would be cool if my phone took down a whole plane.


Really? Do you use it at cruising altitude? I saw a study a while back about their effectiveness and the percentages were really low, especially the further up you got. Doesn't really make sense for them to have the special phones in the backs of the seats otherwise.
brvheart
QUOTE (InsanityCubed @ Thursday, April 20th, 2006, 12:26 AM) *
Really? Do you use it at cruising altitude? I saw a study a while back about their effectiveness and the percentages were really low, especially the further up you got. Doesn't really make sense for them to have the special phones in the backs of the seats otherwise.



No, not at 35k. And the main guy, Todd Beamer... he was on one of those special phones, not his cell. Since this flight was delayed many passengers were speaking with their relatives on cell phones before, during, and after takeoff. They all knew what was going on, and the plane was hijacked in the 1st 10 minutes after takeoff. They were certainly not at 35k. Planes climb fairly slowly, relatively speaking.
InertGrudge
QUOTE (InsanityCubed @ Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 7:04 PM) *
Cell phones rarely, if ever, work on a plane.


This is actually extremely wrong.
brvheart
Click me!


Oliver Stone's 9/11 movie.. coming in August.
DonkSlayer
Oliver isn't a huge fan of conservative foreign policy, but from the looks of it he's not going to get too political with the movie.


On another note, what if this really important tragedy in our history is douched on by really bad moviemaking? What if these movies suck because they're poor? That would be rough, walking out of the theater saying "Geez, the acting absolutely blew."

I may not ever be able to get over "Alexander."
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