Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Bet The Pot)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [9h], [7h].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) [6c], [Js], [9d] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) [4h] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 folds.

River: (14.50 BB) [3h] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB




Everyone is an unknown because im writing an essay.

Peel the flop getting like, 18:1.
Turn is innocent enough, and im getting 12.5:1
At showdown with second pair getting 15.5:1


Im not at all accustomed to playing in these huge multi way pots.... this is straight outta the micro's.
The post flop play i see at a lot of casinos is starting to make more sense, even if their preflop play is moronic.

What can you do differently here, really?

I guess under certain circumstances, you could justify raise/folding the river. Maybe if the pot was 5 big bets larger, and i had some sort of a read on MP2 to suggest that he'd bet ace high unimproved the whole way reliably. (really, that's what im banking on here with the call, i guess)

I'd probably c/r the flop and find out where the hell I'm at. Make it 2 cold to the 2 guys behind you who are worried about the preflop raiser yet to react behind them.

You get a better 9, TT, and some weak jacks to fold here often enough to make it worthwhile, as well as the opportunity to thin the field against a guy who might have AK, KQ, or AQ.

If he 3 bets, I'd probably just peel one off and c/f U/I.

If im 3bet, i cant just peel and fold the turn. The pot will be too big. The only turn that i can fold is one that pairs the J or the 6.

I'd be getting 12:1 + implied odds with a hand that's almost always drawing to 5 cards (or more if my BD draws connect).


PS: jacks virtually never fold this flop.

Either way I think you have to c/r the flop, I didnt figure the pot size out but you are right, it is alot bigger than I thought.

Decent jacks arent going anywhere but TT and a 9 SHOULD fold for 2 bets cold on the flop.

on the button i raise this flop, but CR'ing only narrows the pot down to 4 or 5 people. so they might be making mistakes equity-wise, but effectively we're just paying an extra bet to get to showdown, which is a significant goal in such a huge pot when our hand has value.

none of it is pretty of course, but i don't think a raise is correct on any streets, except perhaps the river since you aren't closing the action. i'd need some sort of read though getting 15 to 1 or so.

With that many people in the pot, I'm going to showdown with as little as two overcards with the hope that they improve. To get those overcards out, check-raising the flop is a must. If you bet, everybody will call including players with two overcards.

did writing your essay also encourage you to sit in on a 2/4 table and miss out on your cash cow (3/6 or 5/10, i can't rmember which you were destroying)?