screech
Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 3:56 AM
QUOTE (psujohn @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 8:21 PM)

QQ and he just called down. But really that's not the point.
An MP raiser or someone who's LAG and I 3-bet this PF normally. Yeah I guess folding PF isn't really an option. It's just that mid pockets lose a lot when it's heads-up vs a tight EP raiser.
The question is more:
- 3-bet PF and lead a "safe" flop
- call PF and lead a "safe" flop
- call PF and C/R a "safe" flop
- call PF and C/C a "safe" flop
Put villain in MP3 and I take the 3-bet PF, lead flop line.
With villain in EP and no other takers though which of these is the best? Part of the reason I took this line is that it's at least similar to what I'd do with A9. Though of course that raises the c/c flop, c/r raise line into question as well.
Edit: or how about this for an interesting question/generalization - does this flop with a chance of trips work to our advantage (getting someone to laydown a better hand) or our disadvantage (making villain take a wa/wb line that leaves us betting into him drawing slim)
Calling pf and check/raising most flops is almost always best. There are some players who I would rather 3-bet pf, and some flops where i may just check/call, but normally you are going to want play the hand as you did. Calling pf and leading a safe flop is almost never correct.
Basically, your decision on whether to call or check/raise this flop depends on the reliability of the information you get if you are reraised anywhere, and the chance that he will check behidn the turn with overcards. If there is a decent chance he will check behidn the turn with overs (or even the river), you have to check/raise this flop and lead the turn as you did, even though you may be at a slight equity disadvantage.
If villian will bet the turn again with overs, then your best line is to check/call the flop, and check/raise the turn. You won't get 3-bet very often because of the dangerous nature of the board. However, I don't think that the board as it is will ever get you to fold a better hand.