jcdoerre
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 9:45 AM
Early position (EP) calls.
Hero calls from middle position with A

J
Middle Position (MP) raises.
Late Position (LP) cold calls.
SB calls.
BB calls.
EP calls.
Flop comes: 10

K

J
SB checks. BB checks. EP checks. Hero checks.
MP bets. LP folds. SB folds. BB calls. EP calls. Hero calls.
Turn: ( 10

K

J

) J
BB checks. EP checks.
Hero bets. MP folds. BB folds. EP calls.
River ( 10

K

J

J

) Q
EP bets. Hero raises. EP re-raises. Hero calls.
pokerplayer24
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 9:46 AM
Raise preflop.
Bet flop
Rest seems fine.
DonkSlayer
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 9:50 AM
TP/MM
checkymcfold
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (pokerplayer24 @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 1:46 PM)

Raise preflop.
Bet flop
Rest seems fine.
this is the proverbial ticket.
Actuary
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 9:50 AM)

TP/MM
what's the point of that?
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Raise preflop.
Why do you all want to bet the flop?
(assuming we did not raise preflop and it was raised after us)
Our River raise sucked.
Zach6668
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 12:19 PM
As played, why not c/r the turn?
checkymcfold
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 4:19 PM)

As played, why not c/r the turn?
we have to bet. that's a scare card, like, hardcore, and i wouldn't be surprised if the turn ended up checking thru behind us.
Zach6668
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 2:07 PM
QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 4:32 PM)

we have to bet. that's a scare card, like, hardcore, and i wouldn't be surprised if the turn ended up checking thru behind us.
That is what I suspected.
jcdoerre
Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 3:14 PM
I can definitely understand raising with AJs, however, I don't always like doing it, particularly from early position. The problem I have is that alot of people won't reraise with ak or aq unsuited. If an ace flops, I can get in alot of trouble. Very few people will limp with these two hands, however. Plus I can get away from it much easier.
On the flop I just figured anyone with a King would raise me, or else wait for the turn to raise me. I can't get a free card from early position. Someone with a king might act foolish and not bet since everyone with a draw will call the small bet anyway, but since he's right after me if I bet and he has a king, he's probably raising to force out the others.
EP called from early position, so he's got something. He calls a bet on the flop from the preflop raiser, that doesn't mean much, but he's probably got at least a draw. Maybe KJ, maybe JT suited, maybe a loose kt suited.
I bet on the turn and he just calls. This makes perfect sense to me if he's on a straight draw and just picked up a flush draw. Or if he's playing loose and has the straight draw. Or if he has a king (or even two pair) and doesn't want to lay it down. If he has kj, jt, or even another aj I can't see him not raising here. It just makes no sense to me. He doesn't know I'm not on a draw and playing aggressively. Why wait till the river if he has kj or jt.
Then the queen comes on the river and I make the straight. He bets, and throws my world into confusion. Maybe he's stayed this long with an ace and hit the straight draw. At this point I should realize I'm either beat or tied, but I don't. For some reason he slow played the turn, and he's clearly got me beat now. After he re-raises I have no choice but to pay him off and stare in wonder at the pocket kings he shows.
Zach6668
Friday, April 14th, 2006, 12:41 AM
I understand your fear about raising it, but it's AJs. You really need to start raising it. It's a suited broadway baby! AJo on the otherhand, I would be more inclined to limp. Either way, it's a really easy raise PF.
- Zach
The Nuts
Friday, April 14th, 2006, 1:37 PM
Well, it wasn't played terribly. I'd raise preflop, no question. AJs is a solid hand and definitely worth a raise. I also wouldn't c/c the flop. Either bet or check/raise.
Actuary
Friday, April 14th, 2006, 1:48 PM
Why not c/c flop?
Zach6668
Friday, April 14th, 2006, 2:17 PM
c/c is good the way the hand was played. However, if we did raise preflop, I'm b/c the flop.