Is this the right time for this kind of move?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 (t7045)
MP3 (t7409)
CO (t7095)
Button (t15642)
SB (t14945)
BB (t5510)
UTG (t10760)
UTG+1 (t10076)
Hero (t3440)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4:spade:, 4:heart:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t200, Hero calls t200, 4 folds, SB completes, BB raises to t800, UTG+1 calls t400, Hero raises to t3440, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t5040

I don't think this is technically a squeeze play.

It's my understanding that a squeeze play is a play where a loose player from EP raises, and he is called by another loose player from MP. You then reraise a substantial amount, representing a big hand, and they both fold.

Here, you limped in MP and then went all in when the BB made a weak reraise to 800, w/ 800 already in the pot.

[edit] now i see how UTG+1 called the reaise, and then you pushed... i see the squeeze play there... kinda.

I think any good player #1 wouldn't raise from the BB w/ out a solid hand, and #2 would raise a lot more than [to] 800, because basically w/ the size of the pot, everyone will have pot odds to call that raise, and be in position on the initial raiser.

I think his raise signifies a decent hand, but not one that should call an all in bet. I like the move, but not because of the timing, because of the weakness shown by pretty much everyone in the hand.

It especially works because your stack is a large amount bigger than the pot.

I kinda like and dislike the move at the same time, mainly because most "good" players will realize what you're doing here, and even though you're ahead of most hands, you might get called by anything from 77-JJ when you make this raise, because they think you limped with a couple of high cards, and now are trying to steal the pot.


just my 2 cents...

No, this is obviously incorrect because you've already tipped your hand toward weakness by limping behind an open-limper. Squeeze plays tend to work better when you have position on both opponents preflop, i.e. you are either on the button or in one of the blinds. An example:

MP2 raises 3x BB, CO calls, button folds, and you move all-in from the SB. This puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the opener because he knows he may have to contend with the player behind him as well; hence he is 'squeezed' in between the two of you. And since CO just called the opener's raise, you can generally assume he isn't all that strong and will probably fold as well.

With your M around 10, it's a risky move as you're basically hoping for a coin flip if anyone calls or you could be dominated by a higher pair.

If BB is on a steal, then you do have some fold equity with your stack. Looks like the latter, so your move paid off.

As others have said, it isn't a squeeze play though.

Sorry for the mislabel, but I am more interested in thoughts on the move. the SB and the original limper are clearly trying to limp in cheap, I do not seem them being able to call. The BB either has an ace x or medium PP, or possible a complet steal attempt.

Given an M of 10, and the overlay of all the dead money, is this move ok? I think calling might be ok, but that is dumping another 400 on a hand I have to dump most of the time on the flop.

So, is calling the orignal limp ok with an M of 10 with 44 in early position? And is the overlay of the dead money worth the potential domination from the BB? I think I am ok with a call from the BB with anything but an overpair, and I chance to double up here is worth it.

Well...I have seen this play before. There are multiple limpers in early/mid position, a raise behind them, and then the second limper jams. I can honestly say....

I find this play incredibly donkish. You will almost never find a big PP (higher than 77) or an ace better than AJo making this move, because if they had those hands they would have raised initially. My calling range as the raiser widens greatly when this happens, basically because I know I am good versus a wide variety of hands (small PPs and A-big X's, like 9 10 or J) that limp and think they can pick off weakness.

I can honestly say, I have never seen this play and thought, wow, he might have AA.

The problem in this hand started when you called preflop. Small pairs in the orange zone should be folded unless you're moving in. Your stack simply isn't deep enough to play for set value because the times you get raised out preflop are too costly.