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swahnroger
HERO in BB 1.00
queenl65 in SB 0.50

queenl65: --, --
HERO: 9c, 6c
Raise i köja: --, --
SuperMusen: --, --
compos: --, --
FatHank: --, --
bluffmarie: --, --
Murre1: --, --

Pre-flop:

Raise i köja: Folds
SuperMusen: Folds
compos: Calls 1.00
FatHank: Folds
bluffmarie: Calls 1.00
Murre1: Raise 2.00
queenl65: Calls 2.00
HERO: Calls 2.00
compos: Calls 2.00
bluffmarie: Calls 2.00

Flop (Board: 6h, 10c, 2c):

queenl65: Check
HERO: Check
compos: Check
bluffmarie: Check
Murre1: Check

Turn (Board: 6h, 10c, 2c, 9h):

What would you do here, and why?
SCS
Fold preflop.

As you played it, check flop, bet turn, call raise.
swahnroger
Fold in BB?


QUOTE (SCS @ Saturday, April 8th, 2006, 5:44 PM) *
Fold preflop.

As you played it, check flop, bet turn, call raise


btw, I did bet the pot on the turn and took it down.
Swift_Psycho
What was your flop plan? Check/call or check/raise? And if this is no-limit (sounds like it is), then any reads you have must be included if you're looking for advice.
SCS
QUOTE (swahnroger @ Saturday, April 8th, 2006, 12:50 PM) *
Fold in BB?
btw, I did bet the pot on the turn and took it down.


Yes, fold in BB. Even with the great pot odds, you're way behind most hands and have bad position post flop.

Post flop play was good.

What was your plan if you made the flush on the river?
Actuary
is this NL? or Limit?

if Limit, lead the flop.
cubbybri
If limit, most likely lead flop but definitely be betting on the turn. I wouldn't have played it in the BB for a raise.

I know implied odds yadda yadda but I'd probably want AT LEAST another caller in there before I'd be playing it.

If I knew the original limpers were going to call than I'd be more apt to play.

If you're playing those cards, I lean to betting flop as that's about the only flop I would be hoping for, flush draw. Enough people in to make it worth your while if you hit and IF all folded, probably all the better as you wouldn't want to run into a higher flush.

And that's the flip side to playing your 96s. If you normally have this many seeing the flop, you're going to run into not having the nuts when your flush hits too many times to think you have good implied odds to play the hand.

I don't think implied odds to much at all unless I'm drawing to a very sneaky hand or the nuts.
screech
QUOTE (SCS @ Saturday, April 8th, 2006, 11:39 AM) *
Yes, fold in BB. Even with the great pot odds, you're way behind most hands and have bad position post flop.

Post flop play was good.

What was your plan if you made the flush on the river?


You're wrong.

Pf call is good. Huge odds out of the BB with a suited hand that has a tiny bit of connectness and is unlikley to be dominated.

Implied odds and all that ****.

Edited rest of post because I realize this is NL. Pf is still a call.
Briguy
Hard to read that history, swahnroger.

The preflop call is fine, getting a likely 9-1. Laugh at the min-raise. Bet flop, bet turn. Post in the NL forum. Convert first.
Wingmaster05
edit
swahnroger
QUOTE (Briguy @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 6:18 PM) *
Hard to read that history, swahnroger.

The preflop call is fine, getting a likely 9-1. Laugh at the min-raise. Bet flop, bet turn. Post in the NL forum. Convert first.


Oh dear, mind telling me where I can convert? Thanks!
Zach6668
QUOTE (swahnroger @ Friday, April 21st, 2006, 10:37 PM) *
Oh dear, mind telling me where I can convert? Thanks!


Option 1: http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter/

Option 2: http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter
RISEorFall
QUOTE (cubbybri @ Thursday, April 13th, 2006, 7:01 AM) *
If you're playing those cards, I lean to betting flop as that's about the only flop I would be hoping for, flush draw. Enough people in to make it worth your while if you hit and IF all folded, probably all the better as you wouldn't want to run into a higher flush.

What? you'd only be hoping for a flush draw? I'd be hoping for a straight. Or 2 pair. or trips....as long as you don't get stuck paying someone off with middle or a weak top pair. if everyone folded the flop, that probably means nobody had a higher flush draw....

And that's the flip side to playing your 96s. If you normally have this many seeing the flop, you're going to run into not having the nuts when your flush hits too many times to think you have good implied odds to play the hand.

this statement is rediculous. Yes, sometimes you won't have the best flush. But most of the time, you will. just because 1 in every 50 times or something your flush is no good is absolutely no reason not to play this hand.
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