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Naismith
I want to get some opinions on the way I played a hand in a live game today.

Background on players in hand:

UTG - Aggressive player that almost never slowplays. When he thinks he has the best of it, he pushes. Will take flops with a lot of hands. Bought in for 200, sitting on 500.

UTG + 1 - Me. Aggressive preflop. Bought in for 300 and playing with 500, mostly playing small ball. Will see a lot of flops.

MP - Bad, bad player. Has made the dealer wash the deck four times because he can't get anything. Keeps calling my raises with hands like Q10 off and folding to a flop bet. Bought in for 200, down to 19 dollars despite playing very few big pots...just call/folds off all his money.

CO - Not a very good nor creative player. Plays a lot of suited connectors Raises and re-raises with big hands. Has 103 dollars...second buy in since I've been there.

Preflop, the button does some Mississippi six thing where he makes it six to go before the flop, which puts the first action on the SB. Both blinds fold. UTG calls the six dollars. I call the six dollars with pocket threes. MP reluctantly pushes all in for 19 dollars. The CO calls. UTG calls.

Okay, it's back on me with pocket threes. The pot currently has 72 dollars in it.

Here are my reads:

- MP went all in with two big cards. There's no sense of strength and he's not even trying to hide the fact that he's weak.

- I *know* UTG doesn't have a big hand. He doesn't slowplay and definitely would not slowplay after getting a raise in there. He could have any suited connectors or a suited ace or king or a small pair.

- I'm fairly certain the CO isn't very strong. He might have a pocket pair bigger than mine, but my read is that he'd re-raise the all in with a pair above sevens to try to get it heads up.

Okay, so it gets back to me. Relatively certain the CO is weak and absolutely positive that UTG will fold, I push all in.

Good play?
MasterLJ
No. It's a horrid play.

LRR is weak.

LRR is only good with KK or AA against retarded players. Your table needs to be SUPER aggressive and partially lobotomized for LRR to be a valid play.

You have very little fold equity, and you're opponent can make a BIG mistake and still have you just as bad as AK.

Let's say 56os feels brave. He has two overs.

Call, hope for your set... fold otherwise.
Naismith
QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Saturday, April 8th, 2006, 2:10 AM) *
No. It's a horrid play.

LRR is weak.

LRR is only good with KK or AA against retarded players. Your table needs to be SUPER aggressive and partially lobotomized for LRR to be a valid play.

You have very little fold equity, and you're opponent can make a BIG mistake and still have you just as bad as AK.

Let's say 56os feels brave. He has two overs.

Call, hope for your set... fold otherwise.


I appreciate the response. For the most part, the table was pretty tight. The player to my right and I were the two most aggressive players by quite a bit.

I didn't enter the hand with the intention of limp-reraising. I entered the hand hoping to hit a set and taking someone's entire stack.

When the play got back to me, though, I saw an opportunity to take a coin flip against the all in getting a little less than 6:1 on my money.

When the hand happened, I could hear some other players grumbling to each other about my play, which is why I wanted to ask here. Above, I'm trying to explain my thinking...not ask for advice and then disagreeing with the response. I'm not sure I made the right play...not remotely. I'm just not positive I made the wrong play. smile.gif
Vman96
it depends on your reads...if you sense that they have hands that would fold to the all-in at least 75% of the time and only call with an overpair more than maybe 10% of the time....it isn't a bad play. But I hoped you changed gears after that since you showed your cards. What did MP have....did you win?

Live is more about playing the players anyway compared to online...so if you think you have a good read...nothing wrong with going with it.
Naismith
QUOTE (Vman96 @ Saturday, April 8th, 2006, 12:36 PM) *
it depends on your reads...if you sense that they have hands that would fold to the all-in at least 75% of the time and only call with an overpair more than maybe 10% of the time....it isn't a bad play. But I hoped you changed gears after that since you showed your cards. What did MP have....did you win?

Live is more about playing the players anyway compared to online...so if you think you have a good read...nothing wrong with going with it.


Well, I didn't put the cutoff on a pair. I actually thought the best he had was J10 suited...probably 8-9 suited.

Anyhow, I pushed, the cutoff thought about it for a while. Finally he said, "I'm getting 3:1" which isn't even close to true and called with 4c6c. UTG folded (pocket deuces).

The cutoff took both the main and the side pot.

I just thought it was a very clever play and was totally read-based, but I did get criticized for it at the game.
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