I fcked up the 1st hand so I deleted it. Cant really recover the details from memory for it to make sense.


$100 max NL on Party Poker. Villain is Elephant with about $70. Hero ($102) is in the BB with Qd-9c.

Villain raises to $3 from UTG+2 after folds to him. MP3 calls. Hero calls.

Flop 10-8-5 rainbow.

Hero checks. Villain bets $5. MP folds. Hero raises to $15.



Now, in each hand, assume villain calls and I suck-out (this is not true or false at this point) on the next card. What is my play with my (no-read) villain, and my play with my (elephant) villain?

Fix the flop action.


Elephant Play:
I'm all for making plays, but, just fold this preflop from and early raiser and move on or atleast C/F UI. mmmm... What's an elephant again?

What do you think he calls you here with? Reasonablely it should be AQ atleast with no real draws to speak of. I'd say you have to be really careful because the call may be weakness, but it can also be AA, KK thinking they cuahgt some one with AQ, KQ and is going to let you hang yourself here.
If you catch your str8, lead $20 to tie him tothe pot and the river bet will probably be called.

With the no-read Villian, you need to bet your made hand on the river. But you need to bet it consistent with what you think he puts you on (which I'm guessing is something like top pair but weakish kicker). Making your hand on the river implies you spiked a third 2. At this point, 1/2 the pot will do (around $10 to $15). It's small enough that an agressive player might make a play, but small enough that some marginal hands will call (top pair for example). The only person you might chase out with that bet is someone who is tight and drawing, but that person was never going to bluff at the pot anyway.