Wow...can Emil Brown be any more of a sh*tty player. If we lose tonight, which is likely now that he blew this golden opportunity...then it is 100% his fault. The day we get rid of Brown, Hernandez, and Berroa is the day we become a decent team. The sh*ttiness of these three players has cost us 10 games easy...so many gigantic mistakes at the most critical point of game after game after game after game after game after game after game. How much of this has to happen before Buddy Bell finally realizes that playing another player might be a good idea.



You're right, we do need some pitching. That's why Moore has been stockpiling as many arms as possible..and most of them have pretty decent potential. If only a few of them actually come through..it'll be a big improvement. The offense is going to be good pretty soon..the pitching has a chance..we'll see.

Royals up 5-3 in the top of the 8th...two outs...so I'll give us about a 30% chance of winning with the way the ChiSox seem to hold over us so much this year. Maybe we'll get lucky and not give this lead up.

Hudson sure looked good.

Hudson has looked really good for a little over a month now...we'll see if he can keep it up. He has pretty good stuff...can he be consistent though..we'll see. Good thing for the Royals though to be searching for as much pitching as possible.

Unfortunatly....this game may be done due to this rain. Though I will certainly take the win if this ends......but I'd rather see the game played out. We'll see what happens...I hope a decision is made soon...I don't want to wait forever.

I'll wait forever if we can get a W out of it. I can watch the Phils and Cards on espn.. I hate it that the Sox can never finish off a series when they have won the first two. I wish I could pull out some stats but I'm too lazy.

It appears that they are going to try and wait it out....if it was the Royals who were losing here..I can 99.9999% guarantee the game would be called...we've already lost two games to the umpires surprisingly quick decisions to call games...but funny thing that this time...the umps decide to wait forever and restart the game probably around midnight or so. Whatever, I want to finish..but having two wins stolen from us earlier.....feel kinda screwed over there...but what's new.

Game on...7-3 now. I still have a terrible feeling about this. Royals have notoriously bad luck when it comes to weather affecting games...I expect to lose this game. We'll see..I hope I am wrong.

Royals win 7-3. I thought we should've won last night's game as well...but I'm okay with just winning one I suppose. Other than Fat Fatterson (Hernandez) and Emil "Sh*tface" Brown..all of our players played pretty well...so the team is clearly getting better, some of the pitching is coming around, Mark Teahen is REALLY emerging this year (.899 OPS...pretty good for a "worthless, useless" player) and things just feel good. Hopefully we can keep playing well and eventually get rid of the junk we have in Brown, Berroa, Hernandez..and a couple others.

Did Teahan used to be on your **** list?

He was on it for one day for making some really retarded error or something really early on...but he's always had decent potential and he has really caught fire since being called back up from AAA...OPS over 1.000 in that two months span I believe.

Mark Teahen is worthless. Okay maybe not. But I just saw your AAA Royals and Sweeny's rehab stint. Both the Royals and the Omaha Royals stunk tonight. There were a couple of players that looked pretty good in the game, LF Keppinger and pitcher Sisco both looked pretty good in tonight's game.

yeah Sisco has been up and down on the Royals. He has some good stuff but has been hit pretty hard so far.

yeah I just saw his MLB resume. 1.77 WHIP and 6+ ERA. I see a decent career for himthough. Hes only 23

Royals were really crappy tonight...we've been playing well lately for a good while now, however...so I guess one stinker is okay.

I'll assume you are joking in saying Teahen is "maybe" not worthless, or whatever. Kid is on fire...and his OPS is higher than A-Rod's I do believe...which would probably shock the hell out of....well..pretty much everyone associated with ESPN and any other national media outlet.

Keppinger is a 2B..not a LF..unless there is some kind of move I'm unaware of. (Okay..so he played LF tonight..but him and Esteban German will be competing for the starting 2B spot next year....most likely. Don't know why he was in LF tonight...)

As for Sisco..yeah, he's pretty good..just had such a tough time with control this year so far though. Had a real good year for a 22 year old with KC last year...he's a pretty solid arm for the future.

Edit: Also...Sisco's ERA is 4.44.......not sure where you got 6+ from...unless you are just talking about this year only. He's got pretty good stuff, again.....we'll see how he turns out.

yeah, that was this years stats i think. and i dont know why he was out in LF either. He DID look out of position. Didnt look like he was comfortable running down flys. And yes I was only joking about Teahen. I just wanted to get you all fired up.
Note again, I will be at the next two Royals-Twins games. First trip to Kauffman, can't wait. Don't be upset that I hope your team loses Koop

I would be pretty disappointed if you were rooting for my team over yours...lol.

Guess they want to get Keppinger some versatility....I suppose. He looks pretty good with the bat though.

KC wins tomorrow, book it.

You know that Santana is pitching right? Not that he can't lose, but that would be a bad bet.

Last time we faced Santana we scored 5 runs in 5 innings....so....we have Santanta's number.



....alright...maybe we don't have his number...but I think we'll be okay. Hopefully we can not walk four of the first batters and not just hand the game away tonight.

Santana has not been himself (pretty amazing) of late. Last three outings he allowed 3 runs in each and his longest outing was 7 innings. For a normal picture that is fine but he is above that. He is also 5-5 on the road this year. I'll take the Royals in a 5-3 game.

I'm not gonna predict we win tonight against Santana..but I think we've got a decent chance of winning the game. Not the favorite..but losing is far from a sure thing, I would say.

Well Santana continued his lackluster (average) run, but KC in true fashion gave it away. 12 walks last night, and many more tonight.

My 5-3 prediction was looking okay until that KC bullpen blew it like usual... I felt good until then.

Hurray for KC! Man, the Red Sox suck right now.

Welcome back Mike Sweeney. If only this man could stay healthy......his bat is so good..yet his back is so bad.

"Josh Beckett will be a great pitcher one day. As for when that day will come, your guess is as good as mine. It certainly isn't today.

Despite a 13-6 record, it's fair to say Beckett has been somewhat of a disappointment this season. He entered last night's game with a 5.00 ERA and took advantage of the punchless Royals last night to lower it to 4.92 in the Red Sox's 5-4 loss. (Beckett did not factor in the decision after allowing two runs in six innings.)"


No respect. Our offense has been pretty solid and even good at times for the past 2 1/2 to 3 months.......but it doesn't matter I suppose...we're still punchless. Our offense has gone from dead last at the end of May to 23rd and getting higher...but still no credit whatsoever. Can't get a single piece of praise for winning a series (and potentially sweeping) a series against the media darling Boston Red Sox or for being the very first team to score two runs against the media God Papelbon and hanging the loss on him. No credit for that though..we are still punchless because we had such a bad April and May.

Good like when they lost back-to-back games to the Sox 1-0? KC is playing a little more respectable though. I'll give you that.

Would you say Jon Garland's 12-3 record and around 5.00 ERA makes it so he is having a "bad year". I would say for him at least it's the story of streaks. Was really cold then heated up.

FYP, wrong thread, and Garland isn't that good. He had a good year last year and 2001, but every other year his ERA has been >4.50.

So...you say that despite our offense scoring over 5 runs a game over the past 2 1/2 months or so (or something like that), that only two 1-0 losses count as to how good our offense is?? Lol..okay, by that logic....I guess the Yankee offense isn't that good because during this one series against Baltimore, they averaged less than four runs a game against that horrible pitching staff. Guess they aren't very good.

Seriously, if you're gonna criticize my team..criticize the pitching. That is what sucks. The offense is pretty solid right now and our organization is loaded with offensive prospects.





I'd say he's had an average year. Just can't go by ERA only when judging pitching. However, it is funny that when a pitcher like a Garland or a Beckett or a Randy Johnson has a poor ERA, they simply have been "streaky" and haven't been that bad..yet when Mark Redman puts up the same numbers..he sucks and is a joke, just like all the rest of our pitchers. Luke Hudson has better numbers than all three of these guys, but not one person would dare say he is having a decent year. Just sayin. ESPN sucks.

They are still 11th in batting average, 12th in runs scored, and 12th in OPS. Their offense also had a total collapse when they pitched some of their best games of the year. Their offense has been better, but it's still nothing to jump up and down about.

Yeah I think if you take out his first few crappy outings he has had a solild year. Redman has sure been good as of late and is becoming a nice ace. Hudson will definitely be good in the future. The prospects sure do look nice for the Royals.

And to greatwhite: The Royals offense is not as bad as you think. Gruds, Teahen (spelling), SWEENEY, DeJesus and others can hit. The AL central is only getting better.

No one is saying we have one of the best offenses in baseball...just that it is getting a lot better and over the past two to three months, we have averaged right at about 5 runs a game. Averaging 5 runs a game is good for about middle of the pack...maybe a little better. Yeah, the total numbers aren't good because we started out so incredibly bad (due to some injuries, partly), but as I have said, over the past few months, we've been pretty decent. That's all.

In two years (or less), however, with Billy Butler, Alex Gordon, Justin Huber, Chris Lubanski, Mark Teahen, David DeJesus, and Ryan Shealy all hopefully being a good part of our lineup...and possibly a good leadoff man in Joey Gathright (maybe), our lineup is going to be very good. Very good.




Redman came back from injury too quickly..so his bad start can be contributed to that somewhat. He has been good for us for the most part this year. I wouldn't call him an "ace" by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't mind if he stuck around next year. With him, and a promising looking Luke Hudson and Greinke back..the rotation could look better next year, but we'll see what happens.

As for the AL Central...yeah...it's already the best division in baseball by far...and it is going to keep getting so much better....so much young talented pitching. Extremely deep.

Haha, nice job KC in beating the BoSox again tonight. Ha, I enjoy watching the likes of Boston, Chicago, and New York lose. It's the next best thing to a hometown win

Thank you KC!

KC sweeps Boston. Don't worry though, we won't get any of the credit for it. It's not because we are playing decent baseball, it is only because the Red Sox are playing so so horrible right now. That is the only reason..or so they tell me.

I think it is a bit of a combo, however the Sox are playing so bad that it may be alittle bit more that they are playing bad than KC is playing good.

I'd love for you to give me an example of how Boston played "bad" in the three games against KC. All three games were actually pretty well played games. Both teams played decent-to-good, but we played better. Yeah, maybe Boston didn't play there best, but they FAR FAR FAR from handed the game to us. Amazing that we can be the first team to score two runs on Papelbon and come back and win against him and still receive almost no credit. Yeah, we aren't a good team..but that doesn't mean we aren't capable of playing well at times, which we have been.

It's times like this that I'm happy I haven't been Royals bashing all season.

Of course, it seems like that's the only silver lining in the whole thing.

The Red Sox are definitely scuffling. Basically, if the name on the jersey isn't Ramirez, Ortiz, or to a lesser extent, Pena, then they've not been playing well. Losing to Tampa Bay in hideous fashion, then getting swept by the Royals when in theory they should have taken 2 of 3 is not how to go about a stretch run to the playoffs. Of course, these things happen when nearly a quarter of the team is hurt/mental.

I'm not just ascribing the sweep to Boston playing badly. The Royals were playing well. They minimized mistakes, kept hitting, and didn't give up even against Papelbon. They've played us tough all year and it's clear to me once a couple of those prospects start hitting the scene this team will sneak up on people without actually having to change too much (need some better starting pitching, but the offense will be quite good). Too bad for the Royals that the quality of teams in the AL Central has improved a bunch in the last couple years. The Tigers keep rocking, the White Sox are World champs, the Twins have the nastiest 1-2 pitching combo in baseball (with some good young hitters and a kick-*** closer), and though Cleveland has struggled, they've also been on of the unluckiest teams in baseball so far and are better than their record indicates.

One final thing. I don't know if you followed the games on the radio or TV, Koop, but how often do you see someone put one over the bleachers in left like Wily Mo did in the first game? Or even in last night's game where he was off-balance with the curve and knocked it over the fountain in left-center. The Sox don't go to Kaufmann too often these days, but I can't remember seeing anything hit that far in that stadium.

I'm definitely not saying that Boston played their best. Just that the Royals weren't simply "given" the games...we indeed did play well. That's all. I agree with what you said, MDXS.

Also....I believe they said that Willy Mo's HR in the first game was the 12th or 13th farthest in stadium history....but I could be wrong on that. Either way..I haven't seen one hit that far there in a long while. It was a nanly-blast.

DAMN YOU KANSAS CITY!!!!!!!!!




Yeah Wily Mo hit that ball about 2 miles.

12th or 13th....that's pretty good. I thought the second one was actually further. I'm curious to see what hittracker has to say about them when they finally update. What a time for them to get lazy.

Boy..it sure would be nice if KC could play like they did in the BoSox series all the time.....not that we'd be great...but we'd be decent. Things are looking up though...pitching help is on the way. Greinke is dominating in the minors and Lumsden is looking good..we'll see.

Don't forget about Hudson. He looked good the other day.





Sorry, but I had to get that out. KC has a lot of good prospects, but the problem is the division is so tuff. While Cleveland took a step back Minnesota and Detroit both have a lot of good arms. While I see improvement in their future it might be a while yet before we see KC get over .500. Yet again you never know. What Detroit has done in the past few years has been impressive.

Who is to say our prospects won't be as good as or better than everyone else's prospects. Greinke, when he pitched for KC at the age of 20, was as hyped as all the other prospects and had a pretty good year. Yeah, he had a couple bad months last year and everyone seems to think he's "washed up" or a "bust" at the age of 22...but he's still a pretty good prospect....and Alex Gordon and Billy Butler are, what, both in the top 5 of offensive prospects in the league...combined with many many other pretty good prospects...we're not just gonna get a little better...we're gonna get a LOT better if our pitching prospects pan out. The offense is a near lock to be pretty good real soon...the pitching has a decent chance to improve a lot with Greinke, Hochevar, Lumsden, and others...we'll see.

Luke Hochevar debuted tonight for Class A Burlington...on a 35 pitch limit..but he threw two perfect innings while striking out two.

I have to give you credit Koop. You are on top of your team's farm system probablly more than anybody else in this forum. Do you think you would follow the farm system so closely if KC was much better? I'm just wondering.

Yeah, I would. AAA and AA are the only two clubs I follow really closely though. The only time I worry about clubs below that are for things like Hochevar's debut and other stuff like that. Those in A ball are just too far away and too much can happen to really get excited about them...but I think minor league baseball is great.

I love KC, sweeping the BoSox, and taking a couple from the hated ChiSox. Pretty good for a "godforesaken" team. And I agree Koop. minor league baseball is sweet. It's pretty cool watching people rise through the minors or struggle in the case of most. I wish that there was a AA team in the area. Good prospects and 10 bucks will pretty much get you a seat in the dugout.

Yeah..lol....too bad we suck to all holy hell and could only score 10 runs against Contreras and the gang yesterday.....yeah, we aren't a good team, but we've been playing decent for a while now, with a couple exceptions.