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nickforgot
Villian is actually solid player compared to others in this tournament (5$ dollar sit and go) I guess he is pretty donkish though...the only real hand ive seen him go at it with is:

6 handed
Shortstack moves in for 3k
Chipleader with 11k calls
Villian re-raises all in
Shorstack has QQ Villian has AQ, shortstack triples up

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:21621812 Level:6 Blinds(300/600) - Sunday, April 02, 14:01:06 ET 2006
Table 2 - Table(654126) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: nicehanddonk ( $27109 )
Seat 3: jebryant3344 ( $12891 )
Trny:21621812 Level:6
Blinds(300/600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nicehanddonk [ Kh Qh ]
jebryant3344 raises [900].
nicehanddonk calls [600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Jh, 5d ]
nicehanddonk bets [1800].
jebryant3344 calls [1800].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
nicehanddonk bets [2000].
jebryant3344 is all-In [9891]
nicehanddonk calls [7891].


Was this the right move here?


** Dealing River ** [ 4c]

Results are in white:

nicehanddonk shows [ Kh, Qh ] a pair of jacks.
jebryant3344 shows [ 4s, As ] two pairs, jacks and fours.
jebryant3344 wins 25782 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and fours.
copernicus
QUOTE (nickforgot @ Sunday, April 2nd, 2006, 1:16 PM) *
Villian is actually solid player compared to others in this tournament (5$ dollar sit and go) I guess he is pretty donkish though...the only real hand ive seen him go at it with is:

6 handed
Shortstack moves in for 3k
Chipleader with 11k calls
Villian re-raises all in
Shorstack has QQ Villian has AQ, shortstack triples up

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:21621812 Level:6 Blinds(300/600) - Sunday, April 02, 14:01:06 ET 2006
Table 2 - Table(654126) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: nicehanddonk ( $27109 )
Seat 3: jebryant3344 ( $12891 )
Trny:21621812 Level:6
Blinds(300/600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nicehanddonk [ Kh Qh ]
jebryant3344 raises [900].
nicehanddonk calls [600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Jh, 5d ]
nicehanddonk bets [1800].
jebryant3344 calls [1800].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
nicehanddonk bets [2000].
jebryant3344 is all-In [9891]
nicehanddonk calls [7891].
Was this the right move here?
** Dealing River ** [ 4h]

Results are in white:

nicehanddonk shows [ Kh, Qh ] a pair of jacks.
jebryant3344 shows [ 4s, As ] two pairs, jacks and fours.
jebryant3344 wins 25782 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and fours.



Im confused by the hand history. IF the 4h rivered why didnt you have a flush?

If your hand is as it shows you probably have 15 outs, and the pot is offering 2.5 to 1, so it looks like a call to me.
nickforgot
QUOTE (copernicus @ Sunday, April 2nd, 2006, 2:34 PM) *
Im confused by the hand history. IF the 4h rivered why didnt you have a flush?

If your hand is as it shows you probably have 15 outs, and the pot is offering 2.5 to 1, so it looks like a call to me.




oops 4 of clubs ...i accidnetly deleted it so i just put the h there
jjgoldy5
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:21621812 Level:6 Blinds(300/600) - Sunday, April 02, 14:01:06 ET 2006
Table 2 - Table(654126) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: nicehanddonk ( $27109 )
Seat 3: jebryant3344 ( $12891 )
Trny:21621812 Level:6
Blinds(300/600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nicehanddonk [ Kh Qh ]
jebryant3344 raises [900].
nicehanddonk calls [600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Jh, 5d ]
nicehanddonk bets [1800].
jebryant3344 calls [1800].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
nicehanddonk bets [2000].
jebryant3344 is all-In [9891]
nicehanddonk calls [7891].

Lets assume that you think there is a 50/50 chance that the villain actually has a J after the all in, with the other 50% being an overpair or a paired 10 or 5... I think we can take this line since if he has already boated, he isn't pushing here.

So half the hands you have hearts, aces, and 9s giving you 17 outs or roughly 34% with the pot laying you 2.2 to 1 roughly 8000 to win 17900 ( I think thats right)

The other half of the hands, you have the maximum amount of outs for one card...aces, kings, queens, nines, and hearts, so thats 23 outs or 46% chance to take a 2 to 1 chip lead.

Granted, probably not all of your outs are clean if the villain is drawing to the ace high flush, or will boat with some of your hearts, etc.
However, taking all of this into account, absent of reads, I think a call is warranted here. Maybe not in a cash game, but in heads up with the blinds creeping up, you want to avoid being short stacked where the big stack can push you around.

On the other hand, if you think you have a large skill advantage over the villain, maybe it is best to wait for a few better situations.

All in all, you win this hand, you will have almost a 2-1 chip lead, if you fold, you will be a 4-1 dog...you have tons of outs regardless (it turned out you had 23) I'm calling here.
blakheart
Price is right-

You need to call

Flush and straight draw, getting 2-1
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