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FARGOpokerND
fav 2 albums...

Joshua Redman - Moodswing
No one mentioned him yet i believe. great sound....very relaxing

Mingus Big Band '93 - Nostalgia in Times Square
I could listen to Moanin' and Ecclusiastics all day

On a side note...being from Fargo, I never get to go to see big name jazz artists. In 2004 our high school jazz band was invited to perform at the Montreux Jazz Festival in Montreux, Switzerland.

We then made our way over to Paris for a few days, where we all decided to make a trip to some random club. Sadly I don't remember the name of the club. We go into this dark smoky club and sit down, waiting for the unknown performers to come out. To our shock (and great surprise as our WHOLE band loves these people) out comes Ronnie Cuber (listen to Moanin' on the above CD by the Mingus Band....he is the barry sax) Randy Brecker (Michael Brecker's older but just as talented brother) and two other players (on alto and piano). I WISH I could remember both their names because they were all PHENOMENAL. I left that club with just goosebumps it was THAT. GOOD.

After that we were able to head over to London where we got to go to Ronnie Scott's Jazz club (Where many big name players played in the past....van morrison, sonny stitt, sonny rollins) Unfortunatly we only got to see a latin band perform....not my cup of tea.

Just figured i'd share that bit of nostalgia with you

BUT seriously...check out those two albums
pitchgod
I've been listening to Buddy Rich 's " Best band I ever played with" cd lately. Their version of Birdland ( a personal favorite ) is awesome.
DrawingDeadInDM
Jazz is for faggots and spooks.

/thread
Dirtydutch
Some favorites piano players of Dutch's:

Thelonious Monk

Art Tatum

Oscar Peterson
Don Giovanni
QUOTE (FARGOpokerND @ Sunday, November 4th, 2007, 12:47 PM) *
fav 2 albums...

Joshua Redman - Moodswing
No one mentioned him yet i believe. great sound....very relaxing

Mingus Big Band '93 - Nostalgia in Times Square
I could listen to Moanin' and Ecclusiastics all day

On a side note...being from Fargo, I never get to go to see big name jazz artists. In 2004 our high school jazz band was invited to perform at the Montreux Jazz Festival in Montreux, Switzerland.

We then made our way over to Paris for a few days, where we all decided to make a trip to some random club. Sadly I don't remember the name of the club. We go into this dark smoky club and sit down, waiting for the unknown performers to come out. To our shock (and great surprise as our WHOLE band loves these people) out comes Ronnie Cuber (listen to Moanin' on the above CD by the Mingus Band....he is the barry sax) Randy Brecker (Michael Brecker's older but just as talented brother) and two other players (on alto and piano). I WISH I could remember both their names because they were all PHENOMENAL. I left that club with just goosebumps it was THAT. GOOD.

After that we were able to head over to London where we got to go to Ronnie Scott's Jazz club (Where many big name players played in the past....van morrison, sonny stitt, sonny rollins) Unfortunatly we only got to see a latin band perform....not my cup of tea.

Just figured i'd share that bit of nostalgia with you

BUT seriously...check out those two albums


omg i want to go to/play in the Montreux Jazz Festival more than anything. thats my life dream. you are so lucky.
riverme_now
Django Reinhardt is one of the most amazing jazz guitarists that will ever have lived. Even more amazing is that he was missing a few fingers.
FARGOpokerND
QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Sunday, November 4th, 2007, 5:39 PM) *
omg i want to go to/play in the Montreux Jazz Festival more than anything. thats my life dream. you are so lucky.


such a beautiful city.

was a cool experience....errr...hot experience.

dressed in all black top to bottom, we played 2 hr-long sets out in the open during a big heat wave. was upper 90's both days. yikes...
antistuff
miles davis and john coltrane are soooo overrated.

its all about charlie parker, dizzy gillespie, thelonius monk, etc...

bebop baby bebop

QUOTE
Django Reinhardt is one of the most amazing jazz guitarists that will ever have lived. Even more amazing is that he was missing a few fingers.


this guy does blow my mind. one day i hope to be a tenth of the guitarist he was.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (antistuff @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 12:46 AM) *
miles davis and john coltrane are soooo overrated.

its all about charlie parker, dizzy gillespie, thelonius monk, etc...

bebop baby bebop
this guy does blow my mind. one day i hope to be a tenth of the guitarist he was.



Miles Davis I'll grant you, but there's nothing overrated about John Coltrane.
antistuff
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 4:21 AM) *
Miles Davis I'll grant you, but there's nothing overrated about John Coltrane.


he plays too many damn notes. its like noise to me.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (antistuff @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 1:33 AM) *
he plays too many damn notes. its like noise to me.


Strange that you like bee-bop then if you don't like lots of notes.
Don Giovanni
i agree that coltrane plays too many notes in a lot of his solos but neither him nor miles davis can be considered overrated. they both influenced jazz more than anyone else.

eh i dont know why i argue about stuff like this, i guess you just mean that you dont prefer their playing
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 5:01 AM) *
i agree that coltrane plays too many notes in a lot of his solos but neither him nor miles davis can be considered overrated. they both influenced jazz more than anyone else.

eh i dont know why i argue about stuff like this, i guess you just mean that you dont prefer their playing



oh, I agree.. but alot of Davis's noteirity came from his fusion work, which is often highly criticized by jazz purists. Me, I love bitches brew.
antistuff
QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 8:01 AM) *
i agree that coltrane plays too many notes in a lot of his solos but neither him nor miles davis can be considered overrated. they both influenced jazz more than anyone else.

eh i dont know why i argue about stuff like this, i guess you just mean that you dont prefer their playing


obviously smile.gif
Don Giovanni
the cannonball adderly verion of autum leaves with miles davis is pretty badass
mk
QUOTE (antistuff @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 2:46 AM) *
miles davis and john coltrane are soooo overrated.

nope

QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 7:03 AM) *
oh, I agree.. but alot of Davis's noteirity came from his fusion work

nope
Don Giovanni
seriously, anyone who wants to get into jazz, or anyone who thinks they know what a good guitarist sounds like, check out Zhivago by Kurt Rosenwinkel.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (mk @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 1:58 PM) *
nope


nope



yup, pretty much my thoughts too.


I know that this is gonna be a very wide recomendation, but, if anyone ever really wants to get into jazz, just buy anything put out by blue note from 57-67/68. A lot of great stuff is getting rereleased and digitally remastered and you can blindly buy an album from that period, and as long as it says blue note as the label, it will most likely be at least a 3* album. such a wide variety of music is covered too and the album art is worth checking out alone
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (mk @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 11:58 AM) *
nope



um.. yep. Not so much in jazz circles ( which are small) but his cross over appeal. If Davis had died in like 65, he would have been about as 1/4 of as famous as he ended up being.
timwakefield
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 5:56 PM) *
um.. yep. Not so much in jazz circles ( which are small) but his cross over appeal. If Davis had died in like 65, he would have been about as 1/4 of as famous as he ended up being.


I disagree. His "household-name" album is Kind of Blue.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 6:04 PM) *
I disagree. His "household-name" album is Kind of Blue.



yeah, and I understand that.. I'm just saying I doubt that would be as much of a household name, if he wouldn't have gotten so famous in the late sixties, early seventies. I could be wrong here, I admit. But that's my read, that he became really famous then playing fusion at rock festivals.
KDawgCometh
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 8:25 PM) *
yeah, and I understand that.. I'm just saying I doubt that would be as much of a household name, if he wouldn't have gotten so famous in the late sixties, early seventies. I could be wrong here, I admit. But that's my read, that he became really famous then playing fusion at rock festivals.




nope, he was already extremely famous because of Kind Of blue(and before going back to teh birth of the cool sessions), and his second quintet was insanely huge. It was a different time back in 65 as what we know of rock venues didn't exist and much was still in the smaller club oriented way for even rock bands, and Miles was playing in the biggest venues of the time that allowed music. He was playing at places that other jazz musicians weren't able to play at, because that was how big miles was
Freddec
QUOTE (KDawgCometh @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 7:06 PM) *
He was playing at places that other jazz musicians weren't able to play at, because that was how big miles was



qft

i got some sicko recordings of some of the shows he played at the Fillmore east and west.......mindblowing stuff..........
Mercury69
Some of my "preferred" artists, although you just can't conclusively say who is "best". There are so many great jazz musicians and jazz is probably the purest form of music by virtue of the fact that its form is inherently interpretive, allowing for much freedom of expression, far more so than classical or rock/pop.

Mingus on bass
Monk on piano
Lester Young on tenor sax
Art Blakey on drums
Billie Holliday on vocals

Jazz is great. Long live jazz.

For those of you debating the Miles Davis/John Coltrane thing, I will admit to not liking Coltrane very much, but that doesn't mean he's not quality goods. I like Miles in his hard bop period (Kind of Blue, etc), but I don't really like fusin jazz in general. Saying someone isn't good is quite different from saying you don't like their stuff.
mk
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 7:56 PM) *
um.. yep. Not so much in jazz circles ( which are small) but his cross over appeal. If Davis had died in like 65, he would have been about as 1/4 of as famous as he ended up being.

Yeah, although the exact numbers are often disputed, Kind of Blue is generally considered the top selling jazz album of all-time so obviously it had cross-over appeal. And not only was it a huge commercial success, pretty much every serious musician ever recognizes its influence as one of the most important albums ever made. Chick Corea summed it up nicely, "It's one thing to just play a tune, or play a program of music, but it's another thing to practically create a new language of music, which is what Kind of Blue did." I still sit down at a piano and try to imagine how Bill Evans came up with those voicings of stacked 4ths on 'So What'.
leftygolfer
Been a big fan of the Crusaders for over 20 years.
Don Giovanni
QUOTE (mk @ Tuesday, November 6th, 2007, 10:42 AM) *
Yeah, although the exact numbers are often disputed, Kind of Blue is generally considered the top selling jazz album of all-time so obviously it had cross-over appeal. And not only was it a huge commercial success, pretty much every serious musician ever recognizes its influence as one of the most important albums ever made. Chick Corea summed it up nicely, "It's one thing to just play a tune, or play a program of music, but it's another thing to practically create a new language of music, which is what Kind of Blue did." I still sit down at a piano and try to imagine how Bill Evans came up with those voicings of stacked 4ths on 'So What'.


yea bill evans is a beast on that song, and the whole album. miles davis's opening solo on so what is also a work of art. i had to transpose it to guitar a few semseters ago, amazing to think that it's improvised.
Mercury69
Bill Evans = one o the best jazz pianists ever

Also, Whisper Not, a Benny Golson number, is one of my favorites...
FARGOpokerND
Heres one I don't think anyone really listens to. Its a college band. University of Northern Colorado Jazz Lab. Each year they put out a new CD. The one called This One's for Sandy is pretty damn good for a college band.
Mercury69
MK, dude...is this you on YouTube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiM7uJiMsFE
mk
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, November 6th, 2007, 1:38 PM) *
MK, dude...is this you on YouTube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiM7uJiMsFE


lol. no
Mercury69
OK, thought it might be as the username is Jazzmk
timwakefield
I'm glad we're getting some Bill Evans love in here. He's definitely one of my favorite musicians. Live at the Village Vanguard with Scott Lafaro and Paul Motian is one of the best live albums ever made.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, November 6th, 2007, 11:38 AM) *
MK, dude...is this you on YouTube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiM7uJiMsFE


LOL

That's Wayne McConnell.

http://www.myspace.com/waynemcconnell
timwakefield
Bill Evans with Eddie Gomez on bass
Don Giovanni
word
lvpro
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 5:03 AM) *
oh, I agree.. but alot of Davis's noteirity came from his fusion work, which is often highly criticized by jazz purists. Me, I love bitches brew.


I would never consider myself a jazz "guy" because I lack the proper education, but I do love the Miles classics. I think my favorite is Sketches of Spain.

I also enjoy other obvious choices like Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Billie Holiday, Nina Simone, Ella Fitzgerald, Duke Ellington, and Charlie Parker.

I eventually would like to become better versed. I plan on taking a lot of the suggestions from this thread.
timwakefield
Some favorite live albums:



Mingus at Antibes, 1960, with Eric Dolphy, Ted Curson, Booker Ervin, Dannie Richmond, feat. Bud Powell




Bill Evans Sunday at the Village Vanguard, 1961, with Scott LaFaro, Paul Motian




Miles Davis live at Newport, 1958, with John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderly, Bill Evans, Paul Chambers, Jimmy Cobb




The Quintet at Massey hall, 1953: Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, Charlie Mingus, Bud Powell
(considered by many the greatest group ever formed/greatest concert ever played)




John Coltrane Live in Japan, 1966, with Pharaoh Sanders, Rashied Ali, Alice Coltrane, Jimmy Garrison
antistuff
QUOTE (lvpro @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 4:26 PM) *
I would never consider myself a jazz "guy" because I lack the proper education, but I do love the Miles classics. I think my favorite is Sketches of Spain.

I also enjoy other obvious choices like Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Billie Holiday, Nina Simone, Ella Fitzgerald, Duke Ellington, and Charlie Parker.

I eventually would like to become better versed. I plan on taking a lot of the suggestions from this thread.


**** that jazz guy proper education elitist bullshit. seriously if you like something you like it
timwakefield
Bump.


Ahmad Jamal.



Charles Mingus live at Cornell with Eric Dolphy.





QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Sunday, November 4th, 2007, 12:37 PM) *
Ornette coleman, btw.


qft








Bill Evans - Gloria's Step live 1972 with Eddie Gomez and Marty Morell
Don Giovanni
kurt rosenwinkel is amazing. i cant stop listening to his albums.

heres a sweet jazz guitar video of him
timwakefield
Nice bump smile.gif. I've been listening to a shitton of jazz lately. Lots of Mingus live in April 1964 with Eric Dolphy (I have about 6 live albums from that month now - Dolphy died that June from a diabetic shock), lots and lots of other Eric Dolphy. Also, Archie Shepp (Mama Too Tight), McCoy Tyner (Sahara), Art Ensemble of Chicago, Art Blakey, Bobby Timmons, and LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of Cannonball Adderley.


I'm totally in love with Cannonball now. Some great albums of his that I highly highly recommend: Nippon Soul, Money In The Pocket, Mercy Mercy Mercy, Live In S.F. '59, Live In Japan '66.. Those are all live albums, except Mercy Mercy Mercy which is actually "live" in the studio, and which is a must-have (seriously).

Seriously though, anybody reading this - go get yourself some Eric Dolphy. Outward Bound, Out To Lunch, Vintage Dolphy, Live At The Five Spot, Live in Europe, The Illinois Concert, just to name a few fantastic albums of his. And he plays (not as a leader) on like half of the best albums ever recorded: Africa/Brass - John Coltrane, Percussion Bittersweet - Max Roach, Charles Mingus Live At Antibes, Free Jazz - Ornette Coleman, The Great Concert Of Charles Mingus (1964), Impressions - John Coltrane, just to name some.
timwakefield
Oh my god Roland Kirk.



ROLAND KIRK!!!!!!






Seriously, Roland Kirk.



A.K.A. Rahsaan Roland Kirk.




Really, I'm speechless.
GeneralGeeWhiz
Coltrane, Ray Charles, Erik Loffswold (my uncle)
timwakefield
Recommendation of the month: Archie Shepp - The Way Ahead
BigDMcGee
This is what I've been listening to lately..




Interstellar space, by John Coltrane. It's a duet between him and Rasheed ali. It's very late period Coltrane, during his free jazz period ( which I love.) If anyone has any free jazz, or experimental/avant garde jazz to recomend, plz do so. Coltrane, Coleman and Sun Ra ( I guess) are the only practioner's that I'm really that familiar with. Also, this thread should be moved by a mod to the music forum.
Whalers2005
I don't think anyone mentioned Coleman Hawkins!!!??!!! The best tenor sax ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B9-AW9JPIU...feature=related
timwakefield
QUOTE (Whalers2005 @ Thursday, October 2nd, 2008, 1:29 AM) *
I don't think anyone mentioned Coleman Hawkins!!!??!!! The best tenor sax ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B9-AW9JPIU...feature=related



I've been listening to a lot of Sonny Rollins lately, I just got the album they did together, Sonny Meets Hawk, haven't heard it yet. Sonny Rollins is incredible though, just generally.

I highly recommend A Night at the Village Vanguard and Live in Tokyo '63. His studio stuff is great too but in general I'm a huge fan of live recordings. Also been listening to some Sidney Bechet, old New Orleans jazz. I just got some really great recordings he did as a leader in the early 40s.


And if anybody here who loves jazz hasn't heard Rahsaan Roland Kirk, go get Volunteered Slavery, or watch some of these and then go get it (and all of his other albums - some great ones are Bright Moments, I Eye Aye, Dog Years in the Fourth Ring, Brotherman in the Fatherland, Rip Rig and Panic).




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqXYAcVPDD4...feature=related




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0JJmwq7KXQ (note McCoy Tyner on piano smile.gif)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXD1OrmzCQI
Mercury69
QUOTE (FARGOpokerND @ Sunday, November 4th, 2007, 4:47 PM) *
fav 2 albums...

Joshua Redman - Moodswing
No one mentioned him yet i believe. great sound....very relaxing

Mingus Big Band '93 - Nostalgia in Times Square
I could listen to Moanin' and Ecclusiastics all day

On a side note...being from Fargo, I never get to go to see big name jazz artists. In 2004 our high school jazz band was invited to perform at the Montreux Jazz Festival in Montreux, Switzerland.

We then made our way over to Paris for a few days, where we all decided to make a trip to some random club. Sadly I don't remember the name of the club. We go into this dark smoky club and sit down, waiting for the unknown performers to come out. To our shock (and great surprise as our WHOLE band loves these people) out comes Ronnie Cuber (listen to Moanin' on the above CD by the Mingus Band....he is the barry sax) Randy Brecker (Michael Brecker's older but just as talented brother) and two other players (on alto and piano). I WISH I could remember both their names because they were all PHENOMENAL. I left that club with just goosebumps it was THAT. GOOD.

After that we were able to head over to London where we got to go to Ronnie Scott's Jazz club (Where many big name players played in the past....van morrison, sonny stitt, sonny rollins) Unfortunatly we only got to see a latin band perform....not my cup of tea.

Just figured i'd share that bit of nostalgia with you

BUT seriously...check out those two albums


These guys played with Frank Zappa and the SNL band, at some point. Check out Zappa's Live in New York CD...

QUOTE (antistuff @ Monday, November 5th, 2007, 4:46 AM) *
miles davis and john coltrane are soooo overrated.

its all about charlie parker, dizzy gillespie, thelonius monk, etc...

bebop baby bebop



this guy does blow my mind. one day i hope to be a tenth of the guitarist he was.


I disagree about Miles, although I thought that way once. I'm not fond of Coltrane, but he certainly has his place in jazz, overrated or not...

Song of the Day: Whisper Not, a Benny Golson composition. Her's a bit of an uptempo version, although I like it played slower, this version is the composer himself...

Whisper Not
timwakefield
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Monday, October 20th, 2008, 12:12 PM) *
I disagree about Miles, although I thought that way once. I'm not fond of Coltrane, but he certainly has his place in jazz, overrated or not...



I get bored easily by Miles Davis, and usually when I listen to him it's more to hear the people he's playing with (Cannonball, Coltrane).

Coltrane though was one of the true musical geniuses of the century, imho. Check out Live in Stockholm or any of the live recordings from his Europe tour in 1961, some of it featuring Eric Dolphy. Also, Africa/Brass (another album).


BigD (and anybody else), have you ever heard The Olatunji Concert? I say BigD because it was the last live recording ever made of him, so it was around the time he was working on Interstellar Space and was playing with Rashied Ali. Pharoah Sanders also plays on it, and Alice Coltrane. Anyways the sound quality is shit (extremely unlikely it would have been released had he not suddenly died 3 months later - sounds like some dude with a 4-track recorded it), but despite that it's fucking amazing. Apparently he did not yet know he was sick with cancer, but the music is incredibly powerful.
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