I do infact have it.. I love that era of Coltrane the most. I particularly like that version of Favorite things. I think that's one of the neatest details of Coltrane's catalog, is the progression of his versions of "Favorite things". If you ever wanted to teach a class about his career, all you would really need to do is compile a disc of his many version of that song, and it will show the way he arced. It's so said he died when he did. I would have been really curious where he would have gone. I doubt it would have been the fusion direction Davis took ( though I do enjoy Davis's late 60's and 70's stuff). Never has a mainstream artist like Coltrane gone to such an experimental place, it's too bad his journey into that place was so short.


And anyone who says Coltrane is overrated is an idiot.

I didnt ask my mama to buy me a trumpet or a violin. I started right on the water hose ---- Rassaan Roland Kirk

That's an interesting point.


So sad that he's far from the only great jazz musician to die very young (and so many were NOT drug overdoses)

Coltrane - cancer at 40

Eric Dolphy- diabetic shock at like 36

Clifford Brown and Richie Powell - car crash, both under 25

Charlie Parker, best ever and didn't even live to 35, drugs obv

Scott LaFaro - car crash at 25

Albert Ayler - suicide at 34

Rahsaan Roland Kirk - stroke at 42

Billie Holiday, Bill Evans - drugs and alcohol


To name a few from a much longer list .

A couple of random jazz thoughts...

Eric Dolphy was pretty awesome. His version of On Green Dolphin Street was one of my formative jazz experiences

Eric Dolphy was memorialized in "Eric Dolphy Memorial Bbq" on Weasels Ripped My Flesh (Zappa/Mothers)

I once saw Sonny Rollins in concert and I recall thinking that it was pretty amazing that the playing was so...perfect

Saw the Brecker Brothers at the Village Vanguard (I think it was) back in the early 80's. Somee kind of fusion thing...I just wish I knew more about jazz at that point

That's all for now...

Song of the Day:

Take the A Train, Charles Mingus Sextet, feat. Eric Dolphy (Couldn't find Eric's version of On Green Dolphin Street)

Mingus/Dolphy/A Train

And Jaki Byard on piano! IMO that's the best band Mingus ever had. They played 'So Long Eric' a lot on that tour, written for Dolphy because he was leaving the group after the tour. Those recordings have another meaning now too since he died less than 3 months later.


I highly highly highly recommend both The Great Concert of Charles Mingus, and Mingus at Cornell, both with that same lineup (although on The Great Concert I believe there is no trumpet because Johnny Coles had a medical emergency).

Wicked! I'll have to check out Jaki Byard more, as I hardly know him. And, yes, amazing line up. I love the 4-6 piece combos and this one is incredibly potent.

Maybe some day we'll have ourselves a poker and jazz get together!

Hehe yeah! I'm just glad there's a lot of people keeping this stuff alive (i.e. listening to it).



I just found recordings of Ornette Coleman and then Albert Ayler playing at John Coltrane's funeral. It's pretty amazing. Been getting into a lot of Albert Ayler in general too.

dude, listen to kurt rosenwinkel. hes a guitarist. get a copy of his album the next step and listen to Zhivago. listen to that shit. its in the traditional jazz vein but just perfected. and hes an amazing musician. hes also a world class pianist and plays piano on the title track which is sick. ive mentioned him many times to deaf ears on this site and i can die happy if i can just get one person to listen to kurt rosenwinkel.

Get Mingus Live at Cornell '64, same line-up as the youtube you posted. It's all around amazing, and Byard is definitely at his best. The first track is Byard solo playing a song called A.T.F.W., his version of Art Tatum and Fats Waller, and it's friggin outta the park. The whole album is outstanding, with great takes of Meditations, Fables of Faubus (if you don't know the history of Mingus and that song it's also worth googling and is pretty interesting), and also Take The A Train, where Byard again has a fucking awesome solo.

His stuff as a bandleader is great too though. I recommend Last From Lennie's.

K I promise to find a copy of this . I know very little jazz guitar, mostly because I don't love it. Django is pretty awesome, and Robert Johnson is one of my favorite musicians ever, but that's about it (and is obviously very very early).


EDIT: I will find that album if you find and listen to all of Volunteered Slavery by Rahsaan Roland Kirk (if you don't already have it).




DOUBLE EDIT: So the super elite and amazing filesharing site that I use doesn't have The Next Step, but does have about 8 of his other albums. I'm tempted to try the live ones (there's Live at the Village Vanguard '08, and Live at the Faching '02), because I love live music. Any other recommendations?

And on a related note, if you love music and download it and understand how filesharing works and such, PM me and I can talk about inviting you to this site. As I said though it's very 'elite,' meaning small and they only allow good users to stay. In other words, even as a 'Power User' with a ratio well over 1.00, I get just one invite per month.

im downloading some stuff from that guy, ill tell you what i think. cant find that album you mentioned though.

live at the village vanguard is awesome, never heard that other one. but i would still hear this tune Zhivago, its like, the essence of jazz in every way.

and im ok with the file sharing system im on now, i dont want to have to much of that stuff going on, but thanks though

Wow I knew a few of them died early, had no idea so many of them went so soon.

Billie Holliday is my choice for Voice of the Century, Male or Female. It's arguable, I know, but her voice is unique, her phrasing and interpretation is peerless and her story is epic.

Song of the (Lady) Day

Fine and Mellow

Just watch her face when Lester Young (one of my all time favs) steps up to solo (2nd solo, about 2 mins in)

Meh, hardly. I agree completely. I don't listen to very much 'vocal jazz' at all - the exception being Billie Holiday because she's so incredibly good. I actually just got a few discs of her early recordings in the 30s - outstanding.

I haven't forgotten!

Lately I'm getting really into Karma, by Pharoah Sanders. BigD, you would love this if you don't know it already. It's very very much like A Love Supreme in the structure and also the main melody, but of course it's the Pharoah so he does his thing. The semi-hilarious album cover and the title and opening of the main track, The Creator Has A Master Plan, might put you off initially, but it's goddam fantastic.



Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah

I used to own that album on vinyl ( reissue, obv), before I sold off all my vinyl when I moved. I wish I wouldn't off, I had a lot of cool random stuff.

Anthony Braxton, anyone?

Lest we forget, in light of TW mentioning Django and Robert Johnson, I'll forward the memory of Charlie Christian, probably the first rock'n'roll guitarist. Listen to the phrasing on this track and tell me this doesn't presage RnR by almost 15 years. Still very jazzy and technically accomplished, but unmistakably rock'n'roll.

Charlie Christian Stompin' at the Savoy

Another quality talent who died young, Charlie didn't taske very good care of himself and died of health complications at 26.

Charlie's Wiki page

Recommendations of the month: Charlie Haden - Liberation Music Orchestra, 1969, featuring Don Cherry, Roswell Rudd, and about a dozen others.


Recommendation #2: Anthony Braxton - 7 Standards, 1985.


EDIT: Nice, this is my 10k post! DNA please PM me with my password to the Veteran Forum.

Monk bump, Thelonius that is.

Well, you needn't!

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Cross-post from WMAYGLT:

Speaking of buying, I bought a new LP copy of Noah Howard's The Black Ark (1969) the other day. Free-jazz. Hand-numbered of 1,000 copies. Fucking awesome. I didn't even know it had been reprinted until I found it in a store. The original print is apparently a collector's item, so it wasn't exactly something I expected to find.


If anybody is interested in this kind of music, I wicked recommend this album. Here is a link to a blog that has a write-up and then a working rapidshare link to the album.

http://ajbenjamin2beta.blogspot.com/2006/1...-black-arc.html

Another cross-post:

Has anyone else read Lush Life, by David Hajdu?

It's a biography of Billy Strayhorne, who was a major collaborator with Duke Ellington. It's really a fantastic read, Strayhorne was a fascinating, brilliant man who liked to associate with talent, and the book really gives a great peak into the world of jazz. It covers the staffing, some of interpersonal dynamics, the business sides, and the composition of the music.

Really, really great.

Bill Evans is a piano god.

Saw The Portico Quartet last night. They are a quartet (duh) of drums, double bass, sax, and hang (a type of steel drum). They also use electronics and various instruments like the glockenspiel, a melodium, and finger cymbals for effect. Really great live. I recommend both their debut album (Knee Deep in the North Sea) and their new one (Isla), both are available on Waffles and What.

Random old cross-post, because I was looking back at what I've upped the last few months and this one deserves being shared again! Anyways, the links are still live (they stay live for 90 days after the previous download, and since I just use their free service I can't see when that was, so download them and keep 'em alive for another 3 months, person who is reading this!).

Hey Tim, will you crosspost my Getz post too? Thanks

Yes but it's weird that you didn't just do it yourself, isn't it? Edit: Are you on your phone or something and don't have good browsing abilities??


Stan Getz!

Good stuff, I've been listening to Saxophone Colossus a lot recently.

This is also the name of a meh crime novel by Richard Price. Beware.

Sweet interview with Sonny Rollins.

I'm going to the Hollywood Bowl next week, for Herbie Hancock's 70th birthday celebration. In addition to Herbie mother f'in Hancock, Wayne yeah I played with both Miles and Art Blakey Shorter, and Terence Blanchard.

I'm getting ridiculously excited.