No real stats on anyone yet, first orbit at table...
Firstly, preflop thoughts?
What do you do on the flop, and what's your line for later if any?
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ks], [Qh].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) [Js], [4d], [5d] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero ???
Full Version: 1/2 - Kq In Mp2
easy fold preflop, not that I always do it..but with no read UTG raiseing, fold
flop, fold. fodl >>> raise >>>>>>>> call
flop, fold. fodl >>> raise >>>>>>>> call
KQ off is one hand i cold call with a lot... Probably a big mistake.
Anyways, pre-flop aside, any merit in continuing on the flop?
Anyways, pre-flop aside, any merit in continuing on the flop?
QUOTE (Actuary @ Monday, March 6th, 2006, 5:36 PM) 
flop, fold. fold >>> raise >>>>>>>> call
what he said
oops, my mistake... i read that as fold fold fold in regards to preflop action.
QUOTE (thecamelot @ Monday, March 6th, 2006, 8:46 PM)
oops, my mistake... i read that as fold fold fold in regards to preflop action.
He means fold preflop. And the flop is exactly why. Sure, we have two overs, but with a PFR, they could both be dirty. We can't continue. AK, AQ have us crushed, KJ, QJ (unlikely) have us reverse dominated. Just fold, find a better spot.
- Zach
PS - Fold Preflop. KQs is closer, and depends on how many others are in the pot, but always fold KQo to a raise.
Yea, I see the preflop fold, but Actuarys first post also mentioned folding the flop.
You *always* fold KQ to a raise? There has to be some game conditions where it is okay to play it.
You *always* fold KQ to a raise? There has to be some game conditions where it is okay to play it.
I'm not really qualified to know what to do here pf, but I'd tend to call.
It's probably weak, but I fold this flop (two overcards +bdsd for only 4.5 ish outs, player left to act behind you, etc).
<<reading replies>>
My trusted SSHE says to call pf. I'm assuming then that 1/2 party plays a lot tighter than 3-5 players on average to the flop, in which case it would be a fold.
It's probably weak, but I fold this flop (two overcards +bdsd for only 4.5 ish outs, player left to act behind you, etc).
<<reading replies>>
My trusted SSHE says to call pf. I'm assuming then that 1/2 party plays a lot tighter than 3-5 players on average to the flop, in which case it would be a fold.
QUOTE (devilsslide @ Monday, March 6th, 2006, 6:25 PM)
My trusted SSHE says to call pf.
not vs a raiser it doesn't
QUOTE (Actuary @ Monday, March 6th, 2006, 6:43 PM)
not vs a raiser it doesn't
You're right... it says to call with KQs, not KQ
I'm not sure how, but somehow I fold both preflop AND on the flop. 
But yeah, I don't want to play KQ against a raise preflop, especially without a read and the raise coming from EP. The positional advantage doesn't make up for what could very likely be a large gap in equity, with him on the positive end.
But yeah, I don't want to play KQ against a raise preflop, especially without a read and the raise coming from EP. The positional advantage doesn't make up for what could very likely be a large gap in equity, with him on the positive end.
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