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Saturday, March 4th, 2006, 10:58 AM
QUOTE (AlphaOmega @ Saturday, March 4th, 2006, 3:09 PM)

I originally was apprehensive to lead this flop, but I see why we should now. By leading, we can fold some hands and narrow down the field, which might not happen if we check/call. Since we would be committing a bet anyway, it would be nice to commit that bet while improving our chances to win.
I'm check/folding the turn though. Getting 8:1 but I think our over outs are often dirty, and none of our bd draws came through.
Would it be better if we had a read on CO? I would consider proceeding in the hand if I knew CO was FOS or if I was able to narrow him down to a hand that I could make him fold with a turn c/r.
No reads on the villian.
We can use the general read that most players in 3/6 will raise with both pairs and draws.
I didn't post this because I thought people would think it was a nh. In fact, I knew that much of the response would be c/f the turn.
However, I think a c/f on the turn here is a leak. And I hope we can discuss this hand to where we see why this might be a winning play and not just luck.
Keep in mind, we DEFINITELY call a river bet here. Most solid players will check behind unless they have a monster, but we still have to call a river bet seeing how we played the turn.
The turn raise is two-fold.
A) Our hand is often good as our villian is drawing a good % of the time.

We can't allow the other villian with either a weak made hand or a handful of outs to call. Even if we are behind, you have 6 outs against the CO a huge % of the time.
The pot size is large enough that we can't fold, so investing this bet is a creative and valuable way to maximize your chances of winning the pot. Just calling here in an 8.5BB pot is terrible.