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Absolute
Digging thru my database, I found an interesting hand. I used to read a lot of 2+2 and try to incorporate some of the similar ideas and "tricks" in to my game.

Here is a hand that I played because of some hands and advice from "Clarkmeister" (a very good poster on 2+2).

Hero is in the BB with A :icon_suit_club: Q :icon_suit_club:

3 limpers to me in BB, I raise, everyone calls.

Flop (8.5 SB): T :icon_suit_club: 5 :icon_suit_heart: 6 :icon_suit_heart:

I bet, EP calls, MP folds, CO raises, I call, EP calls.

Turn (7 BB): 2 :icon_suit_spade:

I check, EP checks, CO bets, I raise, EP folds, CO calls.

River (11 BB): T :icon_suit_diamond:

I check, CO check

Hero wins the pot.
AlphaOmega
I originally was apprehensive to lead this flop, but I see why we should now. By leading, we can fold some hands and narrow down the field, which might not happen if we check/call. Since we would be committing a bet anyway, it would be nice to commit that bet while improving our chances to win.

I'm check/folding the turn though. Getting 8:1 but I think our over outs are often dirty, and none of our bd draws came through.

Would it be better if we had a read on CO? I would consider proceeding in the hand if I knew CO was FOS or if I was able to narrow him down to a hand that I could make him fold with a turn c/r.
Absolute
QUOTE (AlphaOmega @ Saturday, March 4th, 2006, 3:09 PM) *
I originally was apprehensive to lead this flop, but I see why we should now. By leading, we can fold some hands and narrow down the field, which might not happen if we check/call. Since we would be committing a bet anyway, it would be nice to commit that bet while improving our chances to win.

I'm check/folding the turn though. Getting 8:1 but I think our over outs are often dirty, and none of our bd draws came through.

Would it be better if we had a read on CO? I would consider proceeding in the hand if I knew CO was FOS or if I was able to narrow him down to a hand that I could make him fold with a turn c/r.


No reads on the villian.
We can use the general read that most players in 3/6 will raise with both pairs and draws.

I didn't post this because I thought people would think it was a nh. In fact, I knew that much of the response would be c/f the turn.

However, I think a c/f on the turn here is a leak. And I hope we can discuss this hand to where we see why this might be a winning play and not just luck.

Keep in mind, we DEFINITELY call a river bet here. Most solid players will check behind unless they have a monster, but we still have to call a river bet seeing how we played the turn.

The turn raise is two-fold.

A) Our hand is often good as our villian is drawing a good % of the time.

cool.gif We can't allow the other villian with either a weak made hand or a handful of outs to call. Even if we are behind, you have 6 outs against the CO a huge % of the time.

The pot size is large enough that we can't fold, so investing this bet is a creative and valuable way to maximize your chances of winning the pot. Just calling here in an 8.5BB pot is terrible.
MrNiceGuy
I remember that Clarkmeister post. NH (as long as you believe CO is good enough to raise the flop with a draw).

Also illustrates why you should typically take the free card when a TAG player calls your flop raise in these situtations.

You're calling if villain bets the river, yes?
Absolute
QUOTE (Absolute @ Saturday, March 4th, 2006, 3:58 PM) *
Keep in mind, we DEFINITELY call a river bet here. Most solid players will check behind unless they have a monster, but we still have to call a river bet seeing how we played the turn.
screech
Nice brag post! tongue.gif

I like this line, and have used it from time to time. This works well against dumb players who never take the free card when it's given to them.
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