Actuary
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 12:10 AM
BB: 16/6/1.82 400 hands nothing nutty yet
Button 41/14/ 1.66
I'm 35/15/2.14 after 55 hands, if anyone is paying attention, but if I've been datamined before, I"m sure these are mitigated
Preflop: Hero is CO with [Ah], [Qd].
6 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) [8d], [5s], [8h] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) [Ad] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
I make this play (check turn, and intend to call river or bet if checked to), maybe too much. Just checking here
RISEorFall
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 12:18 AM
you checking turn so he doesnt fold his 5 or pocket pair or whatever and maybe bets the river?
doubleatrain
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 12:23 AM
Hmm...I'd probably bet the turn out of habit, but then I'd hate to be 3-bet, and I don't want to not get value if we can get him to think his medium PP is good and take a stab at the river.
All said, I kinda like this play under these circumstances.
Zach6668
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 1:58 AM
I'm not arguing.
Why did you 3-bet the flop?
Why did you check the turn?
Why are you only c/c the river?
- Zach
Actuary
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 9:21 AM
flop play to say: You don't have an 8.
If he caps and leads non AJ turn, I call and fold river UI, puting him on PPless than 8 usually. I wuld not raise a A/J river though.
Since no cap, my plan was to do as I did. I did not want to face anothr c/r yet my hand has SD value HU. This plan was hatched prior to me actually seeing the turn
So, without much time, I thought:
- if he has a PP < 8, he's folding almost always to a bet now
- he's folding gutshots and two high cards w/o an Ace
- if he has Ax he's going to c/r. I'm getting 5:1 effective to call down a c/r + river bet, so I feel it's an easy call down, since he won't give me credit for a really strong kicker
- if he has 55/8x (he may call here with T8s preflop, as noted, I was Laggy there), I"m geting c/r and killed, and losinng 3 bets.
He will bet a lot of rivers.
This is just a low stress way to get to SD, while losing value sometimes and saving bets other, and making more against the right opponents.
I'm sure there's a place for it, and had the turn been a T, I'm pretty certain this is a place for that, as he probably bets with A high on that river enough.
my game needs work in these situations
RISEorFall
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 9:31 AM
what are you doing on a blank turn?
pokerplayer24
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 9:41 AM
When I pull this line I almost always raise the river if bet into.
But yea the flop line is pretty unslappy.
Actuary
Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (RISEorFall @ Friday, March 3rd, 2006, 9:31 AM)

what are you doing on a blank turn?
the same.
read my post, whore.
pokerkid
Saturday, March 4th, 2006, 11:32 AM
Who else thinks the flop 3-bet is a spew?
*PK raises hand*
Maybe if qualitatively you knew villain was very tight or weak post flop the play could work.
Personally, I hate the flop line.
Actuary
Sunday, March 5th, 2006, 2:38 AM
He bet river, I called
AJ, I win.
In this case I probably made 1 less BB.
I liked my plan if no Ace, but otherwise, I should bet that Ace and call down a c/r.
Pay off trips if necessary.
PK, he c/r a lot of flops, given his stats. I mean A LOT.
I wanted to see what he did on the turn.
To the extent I use "raising for info", I use it against solid (but probably not tricky) players in HU battles.
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