Not sure exact details, but it went basically like this.

5/10 LHE live.

Hero is decent and tight. Button is a particularly solid all around. MP1 is a 'tard.

Im not involved in the hand. The title obviously gives it away a bit, but bare with it....

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K :icon_suit_heart:, K :icon_suit_club:.
MP1 calls, Hero raises, Button 3bets, MP1 calls, Hero caps, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13.5 SB) A :icon_suit_diamond:, K :icon_suit_diamond:, 4 :icon_suit_spade: (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP1 3bets, Hero call, Button calls.

Turn: (12.75BB) K :icon_suit_spade: (3 players)
MP1 bets, Hero raises, Button 3bets, MP1 calls, Hero caps, Button calls, MP1 calls.

River: (24.75 BB) A :icon_suit_heart: (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP1 folds, Hero...


The actual hand went to roughly 6 bets.


Does it really need to ever go past 2?


In the heat of the moment, i think most of us would at least 3bet this.


But i cant see anything but AA that plays it this way. How often does a solid player 3bet the turn in that situation with just top pair? How often does a solid player raise the river with 44 for the bottom boat? How often is 44 or AQ reraised preflop? Often enough to call getting 28:1, but i dont think often enough to raise.


This isnt really very applicable for 'strategy'. But it's not a bad beat whine fest either... i just think it's interesting how strong a hand can be, and yet not be worth a raise in light of all the information that we could have.

Given the read on button, I don't even like the first river bet. Button doesn't have a busted flush draw or 44 given his preflop 3-bet, and you have all the kings. So what else does he 3-bet the turn with besides AA?

This hand didn't really happen, did it? 3 flopped sets? (or, MP1 badly overplaying a flush draw).

Man, I wish this would happen to me at the local B&M cardroom. The bad beat is usually between $10-$20K when it hits.

You're telling me, the one 10 mins from my house (was playing there last night) is currently at $130K! Over $90K at the big casino around here too.. It's insane...

i think i'd need an extremely strong read to leave it at 2, or even 4. i probably go to 6 with a strong read, and 8-10 without.

not only does he have to be a strong player, but he has to respect your (i know, not you) play enough if you don't think he'd 3-bet there with AQ/AJ, etc.

i think if you don't take it to 4 at least, you're making a significant mistake. given the additional factors at a B&M, i take it to 8 against most i think.

that sucks if hehas AA but

1. your in a B&M
2. shake your oponents hand if he has AA because you will kick your own ass if you only call or whatever and he flips over Ax for a boat while you could have made at least a few more bets...

it's a cooler if he has it, but we HAVE to pay off the cooler for at least a few more bets

Guys, villain might raise that river with Ax, but there's no way villain would have 3-bet the turn without a boat, given the earlier action (and since you have all the kings), as he should be reading you for at least AK. Which means villain can only have AA or 44, and 44 doesn't make any sense given the preflop action.

On the turn, knowing that button is a solid player, I'm at least 90% sure he has AA. I wouldn't bet the river at all, I'd just check/call.

No bad beat jackpot unfortunately.

I think the river is a clear bet/fold.





















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Seriously. I probably 3-bet the river. While it's HIGHLY unlikely, it is possible that all he has is AQ or something and didn't put you on trips until the turn got capped, and then figured his boat was good. I doubt I'm going past 3-betting though, unless he is an uber donkey.

- Zach

no one is good enough to not pump this.
don't be silly.

check/raise fold to a 3 bet maybe?






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