FCP

RISE is UTG with Q :icon_suit_heart: Q :icon_suit_diamond:

PF: RISE raises, 1 fold, UTG2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds

Flop: A :icon_suit_club: J :icon_suit_club: 9 :icon_suit_club:
SB checks, RISE bets....


who bets and who just gives up here and why?

11 SB pot.
I'll ..gosh... really sux... ... fire and hope an AceX with no :icon_suit_club: folds... and no clubs come later and no one rasies me...

c/f sounds good, but I'll fire once. Pot huge, me dumb

I'd probably just fire one into the pot and see what happens. From then on I essentially shut down if shown any resistance at all.

That's a horrible board, with 5 players to a PF raise...I give up right there.

FCP

RISE is UTG with Q :icon_suit_heart: Q :icon_suit_diamond:

PF:RISE raises, 1 fold, UTG2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds

Flop: (11 SB)A :icon_suit_club: J :icon_suit_club: 9 :icon_suit_club:
SB checks, RISE bets, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, SB folds

Turn:(6.5 BB)9 :icon_suit_diamond:
RISE bets...


good?
I want to charge him if he has a lone club or a J with a club kicker, no?

yeah, bet.
darn, now I"m in for 1.5 BB post flop.

Once you are heads up, I'd definitely fire the turn. He may have a scared ace, or he could have a naked club draw.

If the river is a blank, are we c/c or c/f? I doubt a bet has any value.

- Zach

as played, i definately bet that turn also.

This is one of those hands where I bet the flop and hope it's 2-back to me so I can fold.

Yeah, HU you need to lead the turn.

The river is tricky - villain does this with Ax and with any club. Makes it hard to know what a "blank" is. I'm tempted to c/f the river but I don't want to invite a missed flush draw to put us on a missed flush draw and steal the pot. b/f seems pretty useless (unless a club falls) because nothing that we beat is calling. I guess that leave us with c/c the river but really the only thing we beat is the missed flush draw. I just don't see a J coming this far (unless its a J with a club) and if it does I don't see it betting if checked to.

Hehe, I think like that, too.

"Hey guys, make this an easy decision for me!"

Playing it the same as OP so far...

Jeff

ok so what are your plans for the river?

i like psujohn's analysis
I'm almost certain i dont bet, unless its a Q
I dont like to just c/f
but I think c/c sux too cause there's not much aside from a missed draw that he's betting that I can beat.

what if river is a blank?
what if it's another club?