Ok, look over this and tell me if I played this wrong at all.


FullTiltPoker Game #457721678: Table Clayton (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:02:20 ET - 2006/02/23
Seat 1: neil72 ($24.70)
Seat 2: HERO ($24.30)
Seat 3: djryry20 ($50)
Seat 4: jrhurban25 ($33.15)
Seat 5: RounderForLife ($48.20), is sitting out
Seat 6: RealTired ($42.50)
HERO posts the small blind of $0.25
djryry20 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [8h 4h]
jrhurban25 calls $0.50
RealTired folds
neil72 folds
HERO calls $0.25
djryry20 checks
*** FLOP *** [3d 5h 2h]
HERO bets $1.50
djryry20 folds
jrhurban25 calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [3d 5h 2h] [8d]
HERO bets $3
jrhurban25 raises to $6
HERO calls $3
*** RIVER *** [3d 5h 2h 8d] [6d]
HERO bets $5
jrhurban25 calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [8h 4h] (a straight, Six high)
jrhurban25 mucks
HERO wins the pot ($25.20) with a straight, Six high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $26.50 | Rake $1.30
Board: [3d 5h 2h 8d 6d]
Seat 1: neil72 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HERO (small blind) showed [8h 4h] and won ($25.20) with a straight, Six high
Seat 3: djryry20 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jrhurban25 mucked [5c 5d] - three of a kind, Fives
Seat 5: RounderForLife is sitting out
Seat 6: RealTired didn't bet (folded)

I was the SB. With that flop, I am a favorite to win against even top set, on the flop right? 9 hearts, 8 straight cards equals 17 outs. Using 'rule of 4' that means 68% favorite correct? Then the turn gives me top pair with my draws. He said I chased him down and had played it poorly. I think my only mistake was not betting more. Any input appreciated.

First of all, you dont have 17 outs...you have 15. You counted 6h and Ah twice.

You're pretty much a coin flip on this one. I think you might be around 55% to hit an out by the river, but he has the case 5, and outs to tie a straight, making it pretty even. The flop bet is pretty much neutral EV

On the turn, you pick up 2 more outs, but against top set, you're now a dog, The bet is -EV if you're behind to a set.

The 3 of hearts is no good either now that I think about it. But, the way it was played, I think I played it correctly. Just goes to show why you can't slow play a set on a flop like that to the SB.