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Wingmaster05
Villain is crazy loose preflop, tighter post flop

58/0/.36 edit: 60 hands

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Preflop: Hero is CO with [Tc], [Ts].
UTG calls, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) [4c], [7c], [5s] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) [Jc] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (5.75 BB) [Kc] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, ...

is this a junky flush enough to call?[/u]
looshle
How many hands on villian?
Wingmaster05
sorry, 60 hands.
AlphaOmega
You are getting ~7:1, but if you look outside the odds, I think you have good justification for calling here.

For one, his stats look somewhat retarded, so it is quite possible that he could do this with a hand you beat (though it is over a small sample, but this could also prove my point).

Also, and more importantly, calling the river is good from a metagame standpoint. At 2/4, some players will pick up on lines you use in certain situaitons, so IMO it's best to show to the more observant players that you aren't bet/folding the river with a great enough frequency to warrant them to try a bluff raise on the river.

Information could be a factor as well.
No_Neck
I think you are beat more than 7-1 I have a hard time not seeing it for one more bet. But the villian is passive, river raises aren't jokes, I dont' think calling is EV + though.
Sysvr4
Fold.
Wingmaster05
QUOTE (AlphaOmega)
You are getting ~7:1, but if you look outside the odds, I think you have good justification for calling here.

For one, his stats look somewhat retarded, so it is quite possible that he could do this with a hand you beat (though it is over a small sample, but this could also prove my point).

Also, and more importantly, calling the river is good from a metagame standpoint. At 2/4, some players will pick up on lines you use in certain situaitons, so IMO it's best to show to the more observant players that you aren't bet/folding the river with a great enough frequency to warrant them to try a bluff raise on the river.

Information could be a factor as well.


I agree with everything you said here, especially the table image factor. On my worst table i was getting check/raised constantly, and im pretty sure it was because i folded to the first couple of c/r's early in the session and some people noticed it.
princeof56k
I dont like the bet/fold line on the river. Too many villians will raise 4 to a flush boards with air (especially if you have been the aggressor the whole hand and its heads up).

If you plan on folding to a raise, I would just check behind. Otherwise, just bet/call.
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