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Wingmaster05
villain is TAA 16/10/2.3 80ish hands

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [6h], [6d].
1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) [3h], [Kh], [4s] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) [Qc] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) [7s] (2 players)
Hero...

I expected kings to three bet the flop and the Queen was either a great card or a bad card. he called the turn...and i froze. was i spewing here, trying to win every pot?
looshle
If you made it to the river, I think you have to c/c and hope hes just bluffing with a busted flush draw.

I can't see him calling this down with JJ or TT, more like AQ peeling one off and hitting the Q on the turn.

I think its like AJh or something like that enough to c/c the river.
Wingmaster05
QUOTE (looshle)
If you made it to the river, I think you have to c/c and hope hes just bluffing with a busted flush draw.

I can't see him calling this down with JJ or TT, more like AQ peeling one off and hitting the Q on the turn.

I think its like AJh or something like that enough to c/c the river.


When i thought about it afterwards the only realistic hand that calls to the river is AJ (that we still beat). I think if he has JJ-77 he folds the turn, as the queen adds to his doubt. if he does call to the river with one of those hands, he's sure as hhell calling the blank river as well.

i think all flush draws are A high (he three bet preflop) and three bet us after our c/r...

all of this leads me to...check/folding? that can't be right.
looshle
Well if you check and he bets the river you're getting a little less than 9-1 to call it.

B/F won't work here becasue his call on the turn tells me hes either drawing or has a hand hes taking to showdown. He's not calling you with a busted draw, and any made hand he calls on the turn hes going to make a crying call with on the river.

Getting 4-1 I would c/f here but getting 8.5-1 I would c/c.
Wingmaster05
QUOTE (looshle)
Well if you check and he bets the river you're getting a little less than 9-1 to call it.

B/F won't work here becasue his call on the turn tells me hes either drawing or has a hand hes taking to showdown. He's not calling you with a busted draw, and any made hand he calls on the turn hes going to make a crying call with on the river.

Getting 4-1 I would c/f here but getting 8.5-1 I would c/c.


this sounds good here, i was ignoring the pot size completely in my decision when i played (although i did call)
AlphaOmega
I dislike strongly.

Pre-flop is yucky. I'd limp this if the table was passive, otherwise I'd fold. Would you raise 22 here?

Flop is also a meh. We are behind to any three-betting range, even if the stats belie the player's true tendencies.

Given the flop texture, a c/r isn't going to fold his mid-pocket pairs enough for it to be profitable. We may fold overcards, but if we don't they have a squeaky clean 6-out draw twice against us (usually).

When we are behind, we are drawing to two outs.

Making this mistake also commits us to make more mistakes on later streets when we have no clue where we are or how to proceed since we're OOP with an extremely marginal holding.
screech
Fold the flop.

You raised from EP, so unless you've been lagging it up, he's not going to have a hand like AQ all that often. He either has AK or a high pocket pair. You're not getting him to fold a high pp, and you don't have odds to call.

If you really wanted to try to push him off the hand, raising the turn would be better, but still not a profitable play.
Sysvr4
Why are you raising this UTG+1 PF?

As played I think you should check/fold the river. Check/calling is a close second, and betting is pretty bad.

Jeff
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