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Dubey
I am looking for some input on how I played some of these hands. I am not very experienced with NL cash games, and it seems as though every time i do try to play, I run into some horrendous luck.

I decided I'd try it out over the last few days, and I've been running into some very tough hands. luckily, I've managed to counter a lot of these losses with some winnings, so I am not too far down in this current NL venture.

hand 1, 2: the 99 hands

hand 1:

Hero Dealt 9 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif in MP. hero has about $59.

3 folds, hero raises to $1, all fold to BB who calls.

pot: $2.10

Flop: 4 icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8
icon_suit_heart.gif

Villain bets $2, Hero raises to $6, Villain calls

Turn: 7 icon_suit_club.gif

Villain checks, Hero bets $4, Villain calls $4 and is all-in

River: J icon_suit_spade.gif


Villain shows A icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif


Hand 2:


Hero dealt 9 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_spade.gif on button. Hero has about $50

2 limpers, hero Raises to $1.50, Sb folds, BB calls, limpers call.


Flop: 3 icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif 5 icon_suit_club.gif

BB bets $1.50, MP1 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, hero reraises to $10, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif

MP1 checks, Hero bets $5, MP1 calls $5 and is all-in

River: A icon_suit_club.gif

Villain shows A icon_suit_diamond.gif 6 icon_suit_club.gif




Hand 3 and 4, TPTK hands


Hand 3: Hero is dealt A icon_suit_spade.gif K icon_suit_spade.gif on button

2 limpers, Hero raises to $1.25, blinds fold, 1 limper folds, 1 calls.

Flop: A icon_suit_club.gif T icon_suit_spade.gif 6 icon_suit_club.gif

Villain checks, Hero Bets $2, Villain raises to $9 and is all-in, Hero calls


Villain shows TT




Hand 4: Hero is dealt A icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif in CO. 2 limpers, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls, 1 limper folds, 1 limper calls.

Flop: A icon_suit_diamond.gif 9 icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_spade.gif

BB checks, hero bets $3, MP raises to $7 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls.


Villain shows 99



Hand 5: scary board

Hero is dealt 8 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif in sb.

1 limper, button mini raises to .50, Hero calls, BB calls, limper calls.


Flop 8 icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif

Hero bets $2.25, BB folds, MP raises to $5, Button calls, Hero re-raises to $29 and is all-in, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: T icon_suit_heart.gif

River: Q icon_suit_heart.gif


Pot is roughly $75

MP mucks A icon_suit_club.gif K icon_suit_club.gif

Button shows 9 icon_suit_club.gif T icon_suit_club.gif and wins with full house T's full of Q's.





I am especially interested in your input on my flop p[lay in the two 99 hands, and the 88 hand, as I was unsure of how to proceed in those two hands.
KowboyKoop
QUOTE (Dubey)
I am looking for some input on how I played some of these hands. I am not very experienced with NL cash games, and it seems as though every time i do try to play, I run into some horrendous luck.

I decided I'd try it out over the last few days, and I've been running into some very tough hands. luckily, I've managed to counter a lot of these losses with some winnings, so I am not too far down in this current NL venture.

hand 1, 2: the 99 hands

hand 1:

Hero Dealt 9 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif in MP. hero has about $59.

3 folds, hero raises to $1, all fold to BB who calls.

pot: $2.10

Flop: 4 icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8
icon_suit_heart.gif

Villain bets $2, Hero raises to $6, Villain calls

Turn: 7 icon_suit_club.gif

Villain checks, Hero bets $4, Villain calls $4 and is all-in

River: J icon_suit_spade.gif


Villain shows A icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif

Nothing you can do here. Played it fine.

Hand 2:


Hero dealt 9 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_spade.gif on button. Hero has about $50

2 limpers, hero Raises to $1.50, Sb folds, BB calls, limpers call.


Flop: 3 icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif 5 icon_suit_club.gif

BB bets $1.50, MP1 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, hero reraises to $10, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif

MP1 checks, Hero bets $5, MP1 calls $5 and is all-in

River: A icon_suit_club.gif

Villain shows A icon_suit_diamond.gif 6 icon_suit_club.gif

Again...if you read villian as weak/on a draw..you played it fine. However, you should be aware though to not overplay mid pairs such as these..b/c you will run into TT and such sometimes too...but here you played it pretty good it seems.


Hand 3 and 4, TPTK hands


Hand 3: Hero is dealt A icon_suit_spade.gif K icon_suit_spade.gif on button

2 limpers, Hero raises to $1.25, blinds fold, 1 limper folds, 1 calls.

Flop: A icon_suit_club.gif T icon_suit_spade.gif 6 icon_suit_club.gif

Villain checks, Hero Bets $2, Villain raises to $9 and is all-in, Hero calls


Villain shows TT

Villian doesn't have enough here to really scare you...unless you have a super read, you pretty much have to call just 7 more. Villian will likely do this with a wide variety of hands..with only AA, TT, 66 and AT beating you, while you could also be up against AQ, AJ, A9-A7, KQc, KJc (or offsuit for those two against a donk...), and even hands such as KT, QT, QJ.......



Hand 4: Hero is dealt A icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif in CO. 2 limpers, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls, 1 limper folds, 1 limper calls.

Flop: A icon_suit_diamond.gif 9 icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_spade.gif

BB checks, hero bets $3, MP raises to $7 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls.


Villain shows 99

Same as above. Lots of hands probably push there for only 7 more....not many beat you...just tough luck. Unless you have a real good read..probably have to pay this off.

Hand 5: scary board

Hero is dealt 8 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif in sb.

1 limper, button mini raises to .50, Hero calls, BB calls, limper calls.


Flop 8 icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif

Hero bets $2.25, BB folds, MP raises to $5, Button calls, Hero re-raises to $29 and is all-in, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: T icon_suit_heart.gif

River: Q icon_suit_heart.gif


Pot is roughly $75

MP mucks A icon_suit_club.gif K icon_suit_club.gif

Button shows 9 icon_suit_club.gif T icon_suit_club.gif and wins with full house T's full of Q's.

This one seems off. A 10c is on the flop and a 10c is in the button's hand...




I am especially interested in your input on my flop p[lay in the two 99 hands, and the 88 hand, as I was unsure of how to proceed in those two hands.


Seems to be tough luck for the most part. However, don't post results when looking for analysis on hands...get more honest results. Also, be sure not to overplay hands such as 99 when the flop is all unders. Decent/good players usually are only aggressive on these flops with sets or overpairs themselves.....in my experience anyways.
CobaltBlue
These all look fine, Dubey. You recognize that they're bad beats and intractable situations. Don't question your play of them. I do want to echo what KK said though...be careful with middle pockets on low boards.
Dubey
thanks for the input. Yeah, I guess I went a bit crazy on the two 99 hands, but my opponents short stacks played into my thinking a little bit too, I guess also to my demise.


on the 88 hand with the scary board, do you push to the raise and call, or flat call and push safe turn? (ultimately I would have lost all of the money here anyway as the 9Tc would have called with trips and a flush draw on the turn)
Silverstein
QUOTE (Dubey)
Hand 5: scary board

Hero is dealt 8 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif in sb.

1 limper, button mini raises to .50, Hero calls, BB calls, limper calls.


Flop 8 icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif

Hero bets $2.25, BB folds, MP raises to $5, Button calls, Hero re-raises to $29 and is all-in, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: T icon_suit_heart.gif

River: Q icon_suit_heart.gif


Pot is roughly $75

MP mucks A icon_suit_club.gif K icon_suit_club.gif

Button shows 9 icon_suit_club.gif T icon_suit_club.gif and wins with full house T's full of Q's.





I am especially interested in your input on my flop p[lay in the two 99 hands, and the 88 hand, as I was unsure of how to proceed in those two hands.


How does Button have the ten of clubs when the ten of clubs is on the flop?
Dubey
hmm, I guess I had a red 8, and the flop was 8 icon_suit_club.gif Tx Q icon_suit_club.gif


Sorry, was posting it from memory, just knew it was 8TQ with two clubs and I was up against 9T of clubs and AK of clubs. Thanks for pointing it out.
CobaltBlue
QUOTE (Dubey)
on the 88 hand with the scary board, do you push to the raise and call, or flat call and push safe turn?

Depends on my opponents and stack sizes. It's a very draw-heavy board, so pushing the flop is probably "safest" in terms of protection. If I know my opponents are very donkishly aggressive though...I might go for a check-raise on the turn.
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