Tournament Buy In: 20$
PPl: 180
Stage in tournament: 2nd, blinds 15/30
PPl left: 120
My chips: 2200
Limper 1- 2300
Limper 2: 2350

I pick up KK in late position and after 2 late postion limpers I raise 4X BB, blinds fold, limpers call. Flop comes 456 with 2 hearts, first player checks, second bets 240 what do you do?

I'll post outcome later.

I like to play these hands aggressively in the beginning of these tournaments. I raise to about 600-700, if he moves all in, I probably call. Sure occasionally you'll be up against a made straight, but more likely you're up against a draw, either straight or flush draw.

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Theres a huge range of hands he can have with this betting pattern, including a made straight, a set, 2 pair, an overpair and a pair plus a draw.


You'd like to raise to try and better define his hand, but the problem is if hes got an 11 outer you cant price him out, and even a 9 outer would be getting close to the right price, and people love their flush draws.


I would just call and see the flop. If it doesnt match the board and he checks or leads out small, now you can raise to price out the 1 card draw and decide what to do if he reraises.

Preflop I go pot.

Flop I raise. The question is howmuch? I dont mind a min bet here, cause if comes over the top, you may be able to fold. Though you are enticing him to call with his possible draw, its a play that may lose you less chips.

You could go 3x his raise, but you are committing alot of chips to a pot where you might not even see river.

You could flat call here as well and maybe raise a safecard turn. Then again I dont know what a safe card here is, as the information is hazy at best.

First you suggest he raises minimum, then you suggest 3x, then you suggest flat call.

You also suggest he "may be able to fold" if his opponent comes over the top (i.e. goes all-in). Well would you or wouldn't you? The man asked for advice, not a rundown of possible choices.

Also, a safe card on the turn in this situation is any 9TJQK non-heart. Sorry to be a jerk, but your post made me mad for some reason.



I raise big on the flop. Your 4x BB at 15/30 could represent a number of different hands...in other words, your opponent probably doesn't read you for a big pair. The only reasonable hands you're afraid he has are 44 55 66 45 46 56 or 78. Raise him to 750 or more, and if he moves all in, call. He would play any of those winning hands like that, but those betting patterns could also fit A3 A6 A7 77 79 88 99 and any flush draw. There's also the chance, of course, that he'll fold to your raise...but I somehow don't think that's what happened this time.

I would probably put some more money in preflop than your raise to 120. KK is not a hand I want to play with multiple people, so I want to try and win the pot right there, or get hopefully just one caller. I would probably raise it 180-200 preflop.

Playing the hand as you have played, I just call on the flop. After calling your preflop raise and leading out on the flop, the villain has assumed strength, and while he could be making this bet with a flush draw or a straight draw, there is a definite possibility of a set (people do love to se the flop with their small pairs) or made straight. If a card comes up on the turn that does not coordinate with the board (i.e. a heart, 3 or 7), then I will make a raise if bet to try and pick up the pot right there, in case villain is on the draw. If villain checks on the turn, I also make a decent sized bet to pick the pot up...if he raises then the situation must obviously be reassessed.