10101
Thursday, February 2nd, 2006, 2:23 PM
Hey guys,
I'm just wondering what sort of things to look for when choosing a good 6 max table. Specifically, things to look for in PP 6 max tables. Do we look for the same things that we look for in full ring? i.e large pots, lots of players preflop...etc. I've been told that I should look for the opposite for 6 max...any truth to this?
Thanks.
econ_tim
Thursday, February 2nd, 2006, 2:29 PM
QUOTE (10101)
I've been told that I should look for the opposite for 6 max.
sit to the left of whoever told you this and you'll do fine
10101
Thursday, February 2nd, 2006, 2:37 PM
QUOTE (econ_tim)
QUOTE (10101)
I've been told that I should look for the opposite for 6 max.
sit to the left of whoever told you this and you'll do fine
I was actually hoping you would respond econ as I value your comments on this forum...but sure I'll take this into consideration too..
econ_tim
Thursday, February 2nd, 2006, 3:10 PM
look for the same things you look for in full ring games: bad players, or ideally bad and predicatable players
you want people who play too many hands and call without propper odds. in poker tracker terms, you want players with high VPIPs and low AFs. and once you become good at adjusting to aggressive players, you will also like players with high VPIPs and high AFs.
when you find a bad player, try and sit immediately to their left. you want to have position on them as often as possible so that you can isolate them and take advantage of their mistakes.
the average pot size given by party poker isn't a very reliable indicator of how good a game is. it is calculated over a small number of hands and changes rapidly.
and remember, in this forum, flattery gets you everywhere.
checkymcfold
Friday, February 3rd, 2006, 4:55 AM
this is not necessarily true, econ. granted, if i can find a total donk out there and get in a s/h game with him/her, i willl, but barring that, i often look for weak/tight tables that i can run over with very little variance for a very similar winrate. granted, to do the latter requires that you're pretty fearless and almost reckless, but it's a s/h style that does pay off in the long run. i promise.
my criteria, generally, are these:
look for a table which has a 6BB+ avg pot first. if i can't find one of those, then choose a small avg pot table, watch it for a while, and play if people are folding to continuation bets more than half the time, or if they're not making continuation bets when they don't hit.
econ_tim
Friday, February 3rd, 2006, 7:17 AM
QUOTE (checkymcfold)
if i can find a total donk out there and get in a s/h game with him/her, i willl, but barring that, i often look for weak/tight tables that i can run over with very little variance for a very similar winrate.
i agree that weak/tight players are profitable. and now that i think about it, a table full of weak/tight players is more profitable in six max than it is in full ring. this is because weak/tight players have strength in numbers. even though most of them will fold when you bet, someone will have a good enough hand to call if there are enough of them. this keeps you from running over a full ring game unless it is very weak/tight indeed. HEPFAP talks about this.
anyway, you have more experience at higher limits than i do. you play 10/20 or 5/10, correct. i would guess at these levels you can find tables full of people with TAGish stats who just don't play that well postflop or who fold too much.
the OP sounded like he is new to six max, and in my experience it is difficult to find weak tight tables at the lower levels. you just don't have enough fold equity at a party 1/2 table to bluff very much. other sites are somewhat tight, e.g. pokerstars or prima, so there are probably micro weak/tight games somewhere.
checkymcfold
Friday, February 3rd, 2006, 7:26 AM
econ-
right. this really only works for s/h games, and there are a LOT of weak/tight games at 5/10, 10/20, and 15/30, which i have been playing for the last 6 months or so. i do want to emphasize, though, that playing so LAG at weak/tight tables can lead to some SUPER bad sessions if people figure you out and you don't modify your game accordingly. if you do tighten up after people start calling you down, though, then people have a very tough time figuring out that you're good enough to change styles. sitting at a table with a LAG image but playing TAG is a beautiful thing. more beautiful than rainbows, kittens, and world peace.
10101
Friday, February 3rd, 2006, 10:26 AM
Yes I am relatively new to 6 max. Just started playing .50/1 and 1/2 in the beggining of January. My strategy so far has been to watch tables and find ones with very little preflop/postflop raising. I tend to look for the most passive tables and try to be the most aggresive player at the table. I don't tend to stay at the table very long if I feel I am not the most or second most aggressive person. So far it has been working. I agree the avg pot stats on PP is not very helpfull.
AshleyC
Wednesday, February 8th, 2006, 2:57 AM
At party there is no way to see the % seeing the flop stat right?
I play 0.5 - $1, six max at party where the 'standard' buy in is $25. Therfore, I look for a table of probable 'losers' with stacks less than $25. I prefer sitting with 3 or 4 players rather than 5 others. An ideal distribution would be stacks of $22, $18, $12, $8 etc. 'Losers' who have plenty left still to give away. Does anyone else take this line. I actually think that table selection is incredibly important in me being a 'winning ' player. If I sit at a table, and don't like it I leave after sometimes 1 lap to find a better one.
pokerplayer24
Wednesday, February 8th, 2006, 9:29 AM
QUOTE (AshleyC)
At party there is no way to see the % seeing the flop stat right?
I play 0.5 - $1, six max at party where the 'standard' buy in is $25. Therfore, I look for a table of probable 'losers' with stacks less than $25. I prefer sitting with 3 or 4 players rather than 5 others. An ideal distribution would be stacks of $22, $18, $12, $8 etc. 'Losers' who have plenty left still to give away. Does anyone else take this line. I actually think that table selection is incredibly important in me being a 'winning ' player. If I sit at a table, and don't like it I leave after sometimes 1 lap to find a better one.
To many people buy in for less then 25 for this to be a good indicator imo.
Also playing with a bunch of weak/tights in 6 max is good but unless you have a lot of stats on players it can often be difficult to distinguish a weak/tight player from a tag going through a bad run of cards.
WestcoastCanuck
Wednesday, February 8th, 2006, 2:53 PM
QUOTE (pokerplayer24)
Also playing with a bunch of weak/tights in 6 max is good but unless you have a lot of stats on players it can often be difficult to distinguish a weak/tight player from a tag going through a bad run of cards.
Great point. This is definatly something to look for as you move up, I have made this mistake a few times.
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