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Jadaki
Sorry, converter doesnt work for tourneys on FCP, I'll do my best. This is early on in the final table of a 2 table SNG. I have not lost a hand I have played to showdown at this point. This is my first pot with this villian. I am 4th in chips at this point.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM #72,956,372

SB - Hero ($3,825 in chips)
BB - Villian 1 ($5,055 in chips)
UTG - Villian 2 ($3,465 in chips)
BUTTON - Villian 3 ($2,175 in chips)

Hero: Q icon_suit_club.gif 10 icon_suit_heart.gif

PRE-FLOP (blinds 75/150)
UTG calls $150, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO+1 folds, CO folds, Button calls $150, Hero calls $75, BB checks.

FLOP - (4 players 600 pot) A icon_suit_spade.gif , J icon_suit_club.gif , 9 icon_suit_club.gif
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $150, Button folds, Hero calls $150, BB folds.

TURN - (2 players 900 pot) 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif
Hero checks, UTG bets $300, Hero raises to $900, UTG calls $600.

RIVER - (2 players 2,700 pot) 3 icon_suit_club.gif
Hero ???



He min bets the flop, to me that means either a weak ace or a draw. He calls a good sized checkraise on the turn and the river completes the club flush, bet or check?
Hobbes
You forgot to tell us what your cards are...do you have QT?
mk
yeah, a little help?
Rocketwadster
Since your playing this hand "in the dark", I think a check is in order... laugh.gif
Jadaki
QUOTE (Hobbes)
You forgot to tell us what your cards are...do you have QT?


Yea, QT offsuit. I was down to 4 handed and playing a lot of pots when posting this, opps.
mk
I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.
copernicus
QUOTE (mk)
I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.


Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.
Jadaki
QUOTE (copernicus)
QUOTE (mk)
I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.


Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.


What size bet?
Hobbes
QUOTE (Jadaki)
QUOTE (copernicus)
QUOTE (mk)
I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river. 2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.


Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.


What size bet?


I agree with the bet on the river and I'd probably make it $1,000.
copernicus
QUOTE (Jadaki)
QUOTE (copernicus)
QUOTE (mk)
I'd definitely try to extract some value on the river.  2 pair, set, maybe just an ace will call.


Betting for value here looks good to me, and it has an added advantage of blocking a bigger bet from a weakish flush, or a bluff from a weak A that senses your concern that the flush hit if you check it.


What size bet?


Since you probably wont be called by anything except the flush it shouldnt be too sensitive to bet size. Id go with 800. Too much less begins could get bluffed at too easily.
bcook823
The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.
copernicus
QUOTE (bcook823)
The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.



You cant bet too much more. At 3.5:1 he's already overpaying for the draw, and we dont want to price him out totally...we want him to call. If you go to, say 1500 ("pot size raise"), 1200 to go for him, he's in for half of his stack if he calls, and will probably fold. If youre happy with the pot where it is then push.
bcook823
QUOTE (copernicus)
QUOTE (bcook823)
The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.



You cant bet too much more. At 3.5:1 he's already overpaying for the draw, and we dont want to price him out totally...we want him to call. If you go to, say 1500 ("pot size raise"), 1200 to go for him, he's in for half of his stack if he calls, and will probably fold. If youre happy with the pot where it is then push.


Fair enough. If you "knew" he had Ac 8c what would you raise?
copernicus
QUOTE (bcook823)
QUOTE (copernicus)
QUOTE (bcook823)
The blocker bet on the river is a nice play in this spot. If the UTG player is the type that would be leading out with just two clubs, then I would have raised more on the turn. Your giving him 3.5-1 and most will call because of the implied odds.



You cant bet too much more. At 3.5:1 he's already overpaying for the draw, and we dont want to price him out totally...we want him to call. If you go to, say 1500 ("pot size raise"), 1200 to go for him, he's in for half of his stack if he calls, and will probably fold. If youre happy with the pot where it is then push.


Fair enough. If you "knew" he had Ac 8c what would you raise?


With 12 outs instead of 8 I would probably be more inclined to push him out now. I would want to make it clear hes priced out, which means 4.5:1 or worse, and betting that much I might as well push.
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