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WestcoastCanuck
Hero is BB with 10s 9s.

6 max, 5-10.

4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop 2s 9h jh.

BB Bets, Hero raises, BB 3 bets, hero calls.

turn 8s

BB bets, Hero raises.


This is all that is necessary.
looshle
QUOTE (Rmunro)
Hero is BB with 10s 9s.

6 max, 5-10.

4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop 2s 9h jh.

BB Bets, Hero raises, BB 3 bets, hero calls.

turn 8s

BB bets, Hero raises.


This is all that is necessary.


I dont know if you're looking for opinions or not, but I play it the exact same.
WestcoastCanuck
QUOTE (looshle)
QUOTE (Rmunro)
Hero is BB with 10s 9s.

6 max, 5-10.

4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop 2s 9h jh.

BB Bets, Hero raises, BB 3 bets, hero calls.

turn 8s

BB bets, Hero raises.


This is all that is necessary.


I dont know if you're looking for opinions or not, but I play it the exact same.


I was. I completely forgot reads.

SB is tightish, and I actually have never been in a blind battle with him/her. UNtil this weekend, I have no Poker tracker reads.

*Edited to remove uncalled for drunken commentary.
looshle
QUOTE (Rmunro)
QUOTE (looshle)
QUOTE (Rmunro)
Hero is BB with 10s 9s.

6 max, 5-10.

4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop 2s 9h jh.

BB Bets, Hero raises, BB 3 bets, hero calls.

turn 8s

BB bets, Hero raises.


This is all that is necessary.


I dont know if you're looking for opinions or not, but I play it the exact same.


I was. I completely forgot reads.

SB is tightish, and I actually have never been in a blind battle with him/her. UNtil this weekend, I have no Poker tracker reads. Looshle, I like the way you are put together.


Haha I have no idea what you mean by that.

You're taking a free showdown if the rivers a blank right?
Abbaddabba
I didnt see the flush draw at first.

When he has overcards or a smaller pair, he's drawing extremely slim. When he has a jack or better, you're even money. It may be slightly more likely that he has a jack or better. But the weighted average = you have value.

You have 20 clean outs against aces or kings, and there's a good chance that you're ahead to begin with. Your hand is so strong here that it really cant even be considered a semi bluff.

If he calls the turn and the river doesnt offer any help, i think i check behind. Good thing about half the time you wont have to worry about that. wink.gif
WestcoastCanuck
QUOTE (looshle)
QUOTE (Rmunro)
QUOTE (looshle)
QUOTE (Rmunro)
Hero is BB with 10s 9s.

6 max, 5-10.

4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop 2s 9h jh.

BB Bets, Hero raises, BB 3 bets, hero calls.

turn 8s

BB bets, Hero raises.


This is all that is necessary.


I dont know if you're looking for opinions or not, but I play it the exact same.


I was. I completely forgot reads.

SB is tightish, and I actually have never been in a blind battle with him/her. UNtil this weekend, I have no Poker tracker reads. Looshle, I like the way you are put together.


Haha I have no idea what you mean by that.

You're taking a free showdown if the rivers a blank right?


Yeah I edited my response. Yes, I think I have to take a free showdown, but I also think it is closer than it looks (unless a A or something silly falls).
Abbaddabba
If an A falls and he has it, he's probably going to gaybet.

And i think you have to call.

If he really did take ace high this far, pay him off one bet. He deserves it for voluntarily putting 3.5 big bets postflop with a hand that was a huge dog.
WestcoastCanuck
QUOTE (Abbaddabba)
If an A falls and he has it, he's probably going to gaybet.

And i think you have to call.

If he really did take ace high this far, pay him off one bet. He deserves it for voluntarily putting 3.5 big bets postflop with a hand that was a huge dog.


A lot of people bet/chase with A high in blind battles.... just look at the silly hero in this hand: http://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-forums/v...pic.php?t=47705
WestcoastCanuck
Ok, what do we do if....

the 10h comes.

A non H 10 comes on the turn

A non H 10 comes on the river (after the 8s and our above action).

A H 10 comes.

A H 10 comes on the river (after the 8s and our above action).

A non S A comes on the river (after the 8s and our above action).

The turn is an 8, but not a spade.

The turn is a spade, but not an 8.

I guess most other hands play themselves.
Zarathustra
I'm going to assume the SB only calls a turn raise.

QUOTE (Rmunro)
A non H 10 comes on the turn


Raise the turn and call a 3-bet. Raise a "safe" river ("safe" is dependent upon an exact read on the villain, though a non-H undercard is definitely safe. and the pairing the 2 or J would not usually be safe.)

QUOTE (Rmunro)
A non H 10 comes on the river (after the 8s and our above action).


I would actually only call here as another donk bet is quite often a Q of some sort. Obviously, if checked to you, you bet and I'd make the crying call of a check/raise.

QUOTE (Rmunro)
A H 10 comes.


Same as non-H 10 except I wouldn't raise the river. A 4th heart might make me consider folding but it would take a strong idea of the SB's play to know he would almost always have a heart to make the river bet. I would also check behind on a 4th heart, though betting here doesn't suck.

QUOTE (Rmunro)
A H 10 comes on the river (after the 8s and our above action).


Same as non H 10

QUOTE (Rmunro)
A non S A comes on the river (after the 8s and our above action).


This is close so in the absence of a read I might call and with a decent read I don't think it's too worrisome to fold if you get bet into on the A river.

QUOTE (Rmunro)
The turn is an 8, but not a spade.

The turn is a spade, but not an 8.


Call turn and fold river UI. Calling the river isn't horrible though

QUOTE (Rmunro)
I guess most other hands play themselves.


What other hands are there? :wink:

From the people I generally play against, this much aggression is unlikely to be a non-pair unless it's AX of hearts so you are likely to be behind but your huge draw still makes your original play best IMO.

Zara
kdogg
Anybody cap flop to try to get a free turn?
Zarathustra
QUOTE (kdogg)
Anybody cap flop to try to get a free turn?


Highly dependent upon the player and even then it's borderline. Since capping forces the action to close, if he has a huge hand (and doesn't try and check/raise you which is possible) you're still going to get bet into. It's obvious from the action that the villain has a big hand and I think you're going to get bet into anyway that it's not worth it.

The other problem problem I have with it is it ties you to the hand too much. If you do get the free card and the turn and river are both blanks you have more reason to call a river bet as the villain could easily have been pushing AhKh and sees your weakness as a chance to pounce.

Finally, I don't like the free card raise in this situation where it's HU so it's quite likely you need to improve to win based on action, AND you aren't getting good enough odds on that improvement if the free card doesn't work. If the turn was Kh or something you can easily fold to a bet and save money.

I much prefer using a free card type raise in something like this hand posted by wrto http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...7782&highlight=

Zara
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