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bobot624
Was calling w/ 9100ff wrong in this position?
After the flop was it a right call pot-odd wise?


Table is a passive not a lot of preflop raises.

Seat 1: packin-in ($14.90)
Seat 2: chiefjoseph ($15.35)
Seat 3: griffey99999 ($7.25)
Seat 4: full4back4 ($8.30)
Seat 5: easy-1981 ($4.90)
Seat 6: bobot624 ($10)
Seat 7: Assassinato ($9.10)
Seat 9: Gypsydc ($14.80)
chiefjoseph posts the small blind of $0.05
griffey99999 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bobot624 [9s Tc]
full4back4 folds
easy-1981 calls $0.10
bobot624 calls $0.10
Assassinato folds
Gypsydc folds
packin-in folds
chiefjoseph calls $0.05
griffey99999 checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 3d 8s]
chiefjoseph checks
Tony Soprano59 sits down
Tony Soprano59 adds $4
griffey99999 bets $0.10
easy-1981 calls $0.10
bobot624 calls $0.10 (was this a right call pot-odd wise?)
chiefjoseph folds
*** TURN *** [Qc 3d 8s] [Jh]
griffey99999 bets $0.10
easy-1981 calls $0.10
bobot624 raises to $0.45
griffey99999 raises to $0.80

(how much would u reraise here?)

I will post the rest of the hh later on....

thanks
Merby
QUOTE (bobot624)
*** FLOP *** [Qc 3d 8s]
chiefjoseph checks
griffey99999 bets $0.10
easy-1981 calls $0.10
bobot624 calls $0.10 (was this a right call pot-odd wise?)



You are faced with calling $0.10 into a $0.70 pot. That is 7 to 1 pot odds.

To make your straight on the turn: there are four jacks in the deck that will fill your straight. Besides your hole cards and the three board cards, there are 47 unknown cards, 4 of which will make your straight...

Thus you will make your straight 4 out of every 47 times or roughly 1 in every 12 times. In other words, you have a little better than 11 to1 odds of turning the nuts.

So without considering anything else, you are not getting he pot odds to continue. Nevertheless, you should also take into account your implies odds. In this case, when faced with calling the flop bet, you see two other active opponents with chip stacks currently being $4.70 and $7.05 respectively. These deep stacks (compared to the size of the current bet and pot) more than justify the speculative call.

I call.

There is one more thing to consider: what about the remining player who checked the flop... He may choose to check-raise, pushing you out of the pot. But he hasn't shown any aggression yet and you are only faced with calling off 1% of your stack on the flop, so I would not be afraid of a check raise. If he does check raise, you will be forced to give up the hand, but he will not perform this play nearly enough to make you consider folding to this insignificant bet.


QUOTE (bobot624)
*** TURN *** [Qc 3d 8s] [Jh]
griffey99999 bets $0.10
easy-1981 calls $0.10
bobot624 raises to $0.45
griffey99999 raises to $0.80
(how much would u reraise here?)


BINGO! You just hit gin! We see griffey99999 bet (min) into you, then reraise (min) your raise. He has shown a great deal of interest in the pot (...except for the weak bet/raise sizes...this guy is a donkey!)

Regardless of his donkish bet sizes, we should reraise pot here. Try to get him pot-committed. Right now, he has invested $1 into a $2.05 pot and has $6.25 remaining. I like a $1.20 raise to $2-to-go, but anything around that amount is fine. You will (probably) lose the remaining opponent, but you have caught yourself a fish and it is time to reel him in.

Cheers and happy fishing!

Merby
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