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benhoug
NL Hold 'Em .25/.50 blinds.

Me Big Blind: $65
Villian UTG: $47
Villian 2 MP: $170

UTG min-raises to $1, MP calls, folds to me and I put in the extra .50 w/ J.icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif . ($3.25 in pot).

Flop: 10 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif. This was obviously about the best flop I could hope for.

I bet $2, UTG raises to $5, MP calls, I re-raise to $17, UTG moves in, MP folds and I call.

Does everyone else play it this aggressively???

What did the other two players have???
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (benhoug)
NL Hold 'Em .25/.50 blinds.

Me Big Blind: $65
Villian UTG: $47
Villian 2 MP: $170

UTG min-raises to $1, MP calls, folds to me and I put in the extra .50 w/ J.icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif .  ($3.25 in pot).

Flop: 10 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif.  This was obviously about the best flop I could hope for.

I bet $2, UTG raises to $5, MP calls, I re-raise to $17, UTG moves in, MP folds and I call.

Does everyone else play it this aggressively???

Yes, I do.
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What did the other two players have???

It's the beauty of a big draw is that we're in decent shape regardless of their holdings. I'll say UTG has AA and MP had ATs.
jimmybaker04
QUOTE (benhoug)
NL Hold 'Em .25/.50 blinds.

Me Big Blind: $65
Villian UTG: $47
Villian 2 MP: $170

UTG min-raises to $1, MP calls, folds to me and I put in the extra .50 w/ J.icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif . ($3.25 in pot).

Flop: 10 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif. This was obviously about the best flop I could hope for.

I bet $2, UTG raises to $5, MP calls, I re-raise to $17, UTG moves in, MP folds and I call.

Does everyone else play it this aggressively???

What did the other two players have???


I have no problem playing it that aggressively.

The only hand we would really like to not see UTG flip over is KcQc which would put as at about a 2.5-1 dog, very bad. AcQc and QxQc would also put in about 2-1 behind situations. Sets, Bigger club draws are also going to put us behind. However, there are so many hands which are "strong" that we are a very slight favorite over. For instance we are actually a slight favorite over AA or KK.

Here is something to think of. There is no hand out there that could move all in here that you would be a substantial favorite over. However there are a couple where you are a substantial dog. Pushing all in here could be a nice play, but we are just calling an all-in.

This is kind of like calling an all-in preflop with AK, except there is no chance to see AQ, AJ, or KQ because there is no hand that he will turn over where you are a strong favorite. I think we have to suck it up and make the call because we have already committed ourselves to this pot, but we have reduced ourselves from poker players to gamblers.

As for what they had I would guess Q 10 MP and AcKc for UTG, perhaps Ac5c.
jimmybaker04
QUOTE (jimmybaker04)
QUOTE (benhoug)
NL Hold 'Em .25/.50 blinds.

Me Big Blind: $65
Villian UTG: $47
Villian 2 MP: $170

UTG min-raises to $1, MP calls, folds to me and I put in the extra .50 w/ J.icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif . ($3.25 in pot).

Flop: 10 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif. This was obviously about the best flop I could hope for.

I bet $2, UTG raises to $5, MP calls, I re-raise to $17, UTG moves in, MP folds and I call.

Does everyone else play it this aggressively???

What did the other two players have???


I have no problem playing it that aggressively.

The only hand we would really like to not see UTG flip over is KcQc which would put us at about a 2.5-1 dog, very bad. AcQc and QxQc would also put in about 2-1 behind situations. Sets, Bigger club draws are also going to put us behind. However, there are so many hands which are "strong" that we are a very slight favorite over. For instance we are actually a slight favorite over AA or KK.

Here is something to think of. There is no hand out there that could move all in here that you would be a substantial favorite over. However there are a couple where you are a substantial dog. Pushing all in here could be a nice play, but we are just calling an all-in.

This is kind of like calling an all-in preflop with AK, except there is no chance to see AQ, AJ, or KQ because there is no hand that he will turn over where you are a strong favorite. I think we have to suck it up and make the call because we have already committed ourselves to this pot, but we have reduced ourselves from poker players to gamblers.

As for what they had I would guess Q 10 MP and AcKc for UTG, perhaps Ac5c.
sirphatticus
utg- bottom set i think, 5-5

mp- i would guess... although its tough to figure, maybe a small flush draw w/ mid-bottom pair?

i like the aggressiveness...
bcook823
I like your play here. That is a flop that is likely to hit someone that is limping, and your likely to get action.
DrawingDeadInDM
I don't mind putting my whole stack in getting 2-1 with a monstrosity of a draw.
vanilla icely
jesus, u shouldnt even be considering folding this one. ur getting better than 2-1 on your money, very little villain has is gonna put u at worse than 2-1 dog, even if he has a higher flush draw, u have probably around 10 outs here, if he has 2pair, A10 or a set, you're literally laughing. even a set of 5s with the 5 icon_suit_club.gif gives you 16 (?) clean outs (4 7s, 4 qs, 8 icon_suit_club.gif s) the only thing your in horrible shape against is k icon_suit_club.gif q icon_suit_club.gif , but hed have to have exactly that for it not to be worth it....

love the agg with an OESFD...
benhoug
Time for results.

As I said MP folded and I called.

Here was the board:

10 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif

I've got J icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif (for an open-ended Straight Flush Draw)

UTG had A icon_suit_club.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif

The turn paired the 10s on the board, and the river bricked off, and UTG won a huge pot w/ two pair.

MP claims he folded 55, and would've made a full house.

I feel like I played the hand right, and just got a bit unlucky... Again.
pokerplayer24
Mp folded 55, or claims to have. If so what a donk.

As is you played the hand well and were actually a decent favorite over his AA.
benhoug
QUOTE (pokerplayer24)
Mp folded 55, or claims to have.  If so what a donk.

As is you played the hand well and were actually a decent favorite over his AA.

Yeah, I ran the numbers and 3-handed AA was a HUGE dog, something like 4.3% to win. The fact that he had the A icon_suit_club.gif hurt me a bit, but I was still a favorite over him.
Chaserjim
QUOTE (benhoug)
NL Hold 'Em .25/.50 blinds.

Me Big Blind: $65
Villian UTG: $47
Villian 2 MP: $170

UTG min-raises to $1, MP calls, folds to me and I put in the extra .50 w/ J.icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif . ($3.25 in pot).

Flop: 10 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif. This was obviously about the best flop I could hope for.

I bet $2, UTG raises to $5, MP calls, I re-raise to $17, UTG moves in, MP folds and I call.

Does everyone else play it this aggressively???

What did the other two players have???




With an opened ended straight , a 4 to a flush and a straight flush , this is an easy all in push / call.
CardWarfare
Flopping big draws like these seem to give me problems in no limit. Trying not to be results-oriented, since I'm a bit late here, but I probably play this the same way.

Usually, I'd be committing my stack with so many hands that I'm a favorite over. Plus, a min raise UTG p/f and a big re-raise on the flop reeks like aces in .25/.50, which puts us ahead.

It's been said already, but I don't think you played this poorly at all. I do the same thing more times than not.
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