Here is a hand I played today. I just want some opinion if I played it right and if there is a better way of playing it? btw i'm arbeeh624 on the hh.


Texas Hold'em $0.10-$0.10 NL (Real Money), #50,231,683
Table Mbale, 27 Jan 2006 11:50 AM ET

Seat 1: brandersson ($52.55 in chips)
Seat 2: FubarDa5perm ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 3: the summiter ($4.55 in chips)
Seat 5: foxeyes ($11.45 in chips)
Seat 6: wace342 ($6.95 in chips)
Seat 7: Dj fromage ($13.05 in chips)
Seat 8: Li_Mu_Bai ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 9: arbeeh624 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 10: Selan ($6.35 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Selan posts blind ($0.05), brandersson posts blind ($0.10).

PRE-FLOP
FubarDa5perm folds, the summiter folds, foxeyes folds, wace342 calls $0.10, Dj fromage calls $0.10, Li_Mu_Bai folds, arbeeh624 bets $1, Selan folds, brandersson folds, wace342 calls $0.90, Dj fromage calls $0.90.

FLOP [board cards 8S,9D,QS ]
wace342 checks, Dj fromage bets $1, arbeeh624 bets $4, wace342 folds, Dj fromage calls $3.

TURN [board cards 8S,9D,QS,JD ]
Dj fromage checks, arbeeh624 bets $12.25 and is all-in, Dj fromage calls $8.05 and is all-in.

RIVER [board cards 8S,9D,QS,JD,7C ]

SHOWDOWN
arbeeh624 shows [ 9S,JS ]
Dj fromage shows [ AC,AS ]
arbeeh624 wins $4.20, arbeeh624 wins $27.05.

SUMMARY
Dealer: arbeeh624
Pot: $31.45, (including rake: $0.20)
brandersson, loses $0.10
FubarDa5perm, loses $0
the summiter, loses $0
foxeyes, loses $0
wace342, loses $1
Dj fromage, loses $13.05
Li_Mu_Bai, loses $0
arbeeh624, bets $17.25, collects $31.25, net $14
Selan, loses $0.05

replies would be greatly appreciated.

thanks.

If i misiterpret anything please forgive me. I had a small anuerism attempting to read this format. Also delete results.

Don't raise 10x's the BB w/ j9. very bad hand to be overbetting.

Slow down on the turn: This pot is expensive in terms of BB's. The fact he's willing to call your wild overbets should tell you that he's got your j beat.

Scott3705 I bet 10x bb coz everybody limp in and i was on button and trying to win the pot outright. And on the turn when he checks i figure my two pair is ahead coz I didn't put him on a 10. Also if u notice i also have a flush and str8 draw.

btw what do u mean delete the result?

sorry if I did something wrong this is my first post.

When you post a hand don't include the results so that when people critique it, they are not influenced by the outcome.

Welcome to the forum!

I see thanks tobytobey. I'll do it next time.

Delete the results because people will post based on the fact that they know what villain had. It's better to make them come to their own conclusions.

Sorry about the turn comment, yeah you're ahead here. Like i said, the format was tough.... i thought u hit the j on the river and didn't notice the flush draw.

I still say prefloop is bad. You really cannot be doing betting this much with such a weak hand. With a lot of limpers you get called far too often. Besides that...everything else is good.

Your pre-flop and flop play sucks awfully in this hand.

Raising 10XBB is a bad raise in the first place because you are only going to get called by people that are pwning you and folding everything else, just generally.

Raising 10XBB with J9 is just downright awful, this could indicate that you overvalue your hands. You also have very marginal fold equity against the typical player at this level.

Re-raising someone on the flop with middle pair at these limits is generally not smart either. You are playing way too loose/aggro considering your competition.

Edit: I didn't see your flush draw, so that's not as bad. I'll upgrade it to a decent play.


O wait, I didn't see the results.


Nevermind, you played it great. If you are good enough to crack aces then you obviously know what you are doing.

Well-played.

scott3705 what do u think is the best raising amount in this situation when u want to steal the pot in relation to the bb?

Stealing the blinds pre-flop is not a NL concept. It's generally not a good idea at all.

But if you really, really want to risk 10 bb to win 1.5 bb, I'd say you'd at least need some cards first.

alphaomega

I see ur point about stealing the blinds what i meant in the previous question is the raising amount to steal the pot if there is a lot of limpers.

If you were really trying to steal here, I would bet around 5-6BB's. (I think i only see two limpers in front) 3BB standard raise w/o limpers + 1 BB for everyone limper and throw in one for good measure. I do think that given the limit, that stealing the blinds should not be high on your priority here. You should be looking to value bet at this limit.



Firmly disagree here. (Agree as far as the .05/.1 limit goes though however). Also he's trying to steal 3.5BB's here from limpers from MP2 and MP3. Usually these are not strong hands... especially MP3. I don't find any reason not to take a stab here once in awhile (not at this limit though).

My answer was in response to him asking specifically what it would take to "steal the blinds," which was why I only had 1.5 bb in there.

Yea, it changes things a little when the pot gets a little bigger with the limpers, but still, not a good idea with J9 and not a good idea at all at these limits.

You don't really think stealing the blinds is important in NL, do you? Keep in mind we're talking CASH GAMES, not tournament play.

guys in ur opinion what is the minimum limit I should play to get better in this game.

thanks again

SH or course it is. I don't play as much short handed anymore though. Probably only like 15 % of the time.
Full... ehh... I'll use your words... from a meta game standpoint, attempting to steal the blinds makes me look wilder and more agressive than I am actually playing. I don't think necessarily the blinds are that important, but the image you beging to develop is.

whatever your bankroll will hold. I think playin at .05/.1 is a good way to introduce yourself to cash games. I think too many people, when they get into poker, try to play cash games like late stage tournament hands with crazy bluffs and over aggression. I think you should learn how to show down and get paid off on goods hands and fold marginal hands before you start trying to get real aggressive and begin running different types of lines against playser. .05/.1 is a great place to get started.

Then we both agree. I always seem to take you too seriously.

Of course it's important to get the blinds, it's the foundation of the game.

But it should NEVER be the sole reason you are raising in NL, and that's not debatable.

On the flop he has middle pair + FD + gutshot. Are you really not raising there to a guy who has shown no aggression preflop and then bets "only" $1 on the flop...the raise here is standard and correct play.

If the villian showed me AA here face up I'd still raise him. Everytime. We are the favorite now, get the money in on the flop if you can everytime.

- Jordan