So I *need* to defend the BB more... so I'm going to post a couple hands (all where I folded) to get some input if I should be calling in the BB.

Hand 1

I have Kh-8s

UTG+2 limps (moron), table folds to... CO raises (SLA), button calls, SB folds, I...


Hand 2

Ugh I can't find anymore right now...


Also this is for full ring and lets assume I play decent postflop

For Hand 1, lets say in a different situation the button folds. Should I call? Could the SLA be isolating the moron?

Also, what's a good BB/100 rate for the BB. I understand negative is the norm, but what should I be aiming for? -0.10? -0.15?

i fold. this isn't really a blind steal. if anything (like you say) CO is trying to isolate the moron.

its an easy fold whether the button calls or not IMO.

K8o is easily dominated. you could defend against a steal, but limper, raiser and a cold caller, i would fold. K8s is an easy call here.

and K8o is a call when against a blind steal.

CO could be isolating, but I'd rather have J8 or T8 than K8 here. K8 is too easily dominated. I think folding this one is probably +EV.

I suggest you check out the following 2+2 post. It might answer some of your questions.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthre...w=&sb=5&o=&vc=1

Oh yeah, I remember glancing at that long before I had PT... thanks for the link! I forgot about that thread