WestcoastCanuck
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 3:01 PM
Rmunro is BB with Jc Jh.
UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls, Rmunro checks.
UTG+2 is looser than Paris Hilton. MP2 is a calling station. He also makes some pretty silly bets. Button is ok. SB is pretty tight.
Flop: 2h 2c 3h.
SB checks, Rmunro bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Button Calls, SB calls.
Turn: Qh
SB checks, Rmunro bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 raises, Button thinks for about 2 mintues and folds, SB folds, Rmunro calls, UTG+2 calls.
River: Kh
Rmunro bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.
Pretty standard?
MrNiceGuy
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 3:16 PM
I'd raise preflop. Some wouldn't, but I would.
Everything else I play the same.
WestcoastCanuck
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 3:35 PM
QUOTE (MrNiceGuy)
I'd raise preflop. Some wouldn't, but I would.
Everything else I play the same.
I never raise this out of my BB, at least with that many limpers. I may be giving up some equity by doing this, but I don't think it is that much. I more than make up for it by disguising the strength of my hand, IMO.
Zach6668
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 4:26 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro)
QUOTE (MrNiceGuy)
I'd raise preflop. Some wouldn't, but I would.
Everything else I play the same.
I never raise this out of my BB, at least with that many limpers. I may be giving up some equity by doing this, but I don't think it is that much. I more than make up for it by disguising the strength of my hand, IMO.
I disagree with this. I raise for immediate value, and to take the lead in the hand. Also, your hand is disguised well enough if the flop comes with a Jack.
pokerplayer24
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 4:48 PM
I raise preflop.
Rest of the hand looks standard.
I think bet/call is the way to go for sure on the river as you dont want Qx or a lower flush possibly checking behind/
Actuary
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 5:27 PM
QUOTE (Zach6668)
QUOTE (Rmunro)
QUOTE (MrNiceGuy)
I'd raise preflop. Some wouldn't, but I would.
Everything else I play the same.
I never raise this out of my BB, at least with that many limpers. I may be giving up some equity by doing this, but I don't think it is that much. I more than make up for it by disguising the strength of my hand, IMO.
I disagree with this. I raise for immediate value, and to take the lead in the hand. Also, your hand is disguised well enough if the flop comes with a Jack.
what he said
screech
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (Rmunro)
QUOTE (MrNiceGuy)
I'd raise preflop. Some wouldn't, but I would.
Everything else I play the same.
I never raise this out of my BB, at least with that many limpers.
I may be giving up some equity by doing this, but I don't think it is that much. I more than make up for it by disguising the strength of my hand, IMO.
I'm sure this has been addressed, but I'm too lazy to read all the posts.
You are missing out on a lot of equity by not raising here. You would be missing out on a lot of equity even if the limpers were tight. With players who limp with 75s type hands, you are giving up way too much.
Rest of the hand looks good.
zimmer4141
Saturday, January 21st, 2006, 10:36 PM
Raise preflop, rest is good.
TheCinciKid
Sunday, January 22nd, 2006, 9:07 AM
Raising pre-flop should be very standard for you. You miss out on a ton of equity by not doing so. Incidentally, my cutoff here would be TT, unless I'm misread my cards (it happened once live) I'm raising TT and up out of the BB, along with a few non-pair hands like AK, AQs, etc. 99 and down I check though against a lot of limpers.
WestcoastCanuck
Monday, January 23rd, 2006, 12:06 AM
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...pic.php?t=22931
Someone agrees with me.
Against these donkeys, a raise can be easily justified.
screech
Monday, January 23rd, 2006, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (Rmunro)
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...pic.php?t=22931
Someone agrees with me.
Against these donkeys, a raise can be easily justified.
How long have you been waiting to use that one? :wink:
But yeah, he's more used to playing against players that extract maximum and lose the minimum, and all that jazz. Also, just calling has deceptive purposes, and pot manipulation purposes against good players.
Still, I think this is a raise for me agianst most players. We have a big enough equity edge against any opponents. Against donkeys, our equity edge is bigger becuae they will have hands liek 64s and all sorts of other trash. Against experts, they can outplay me on the flop, so I would like to exploit an edge now while I know I have it, and hopefully the large pot size will minimize my mistakes on future streeets.
Canada
Monday, January 23rd, 2006, 4:31 AM
QUOTE (Rmunro)
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...pic.php?t=22931
Someone agrees with me.
Against these donkeys, a raise can be easily justified.
Its probably been about 10 years since DN sat at a limit table where there are 4 limpers to the BB
You have the best hand. Raise. It doesn't commit you to betting a scary flop