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Preflop: Whatever is UTG+1 with [As], [9s].
1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, Whatever calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) [4d], [Ks], [5s] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Whatever calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) [2h] (4 players)
SB bets, Whatever calls, CO folds, SB calls.

River: (13 BB) [8h] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Whatever folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB

the pot doesn't seem to be that big for this cold call, and I think your play looks very obvious to the other players - you're looking for the flush. If the spade does fall, how many bets do you think you'll win on the river?

someone who's a better player than I am can probably lay this out for you, but I'm not a fan of it in this spot.

I'm getting 5 to 1 there on my pot odds. I'm pretty certain it's a call everytime but since it happened to me 4 or 5 times last night and I missed I wanted to make certain I wasn't missing anything.

The call is fine here. You're getting 5-1 on your money here, and you should make 2 bets on the river if you hit. It's unlikely, but an A could be good.

He'd be terrible if he folded.

Are YOU folding? If so, you might be terrible, either at poker or math.

Wang

the turn decision should be automatic: call

eh, i'd probably call but not expect to win much if my spade does hit on the river. maybe 1 bet. i wouldn't expect the sb to call unless he was drawing to a flush, too.

Here's why it's automatic:

1.9 to 1 on the flush coming versus the pot giving me 5 to 1.

What the... huh? What the fuck are you talking about?

You have a gutshot and an overcard, but I don't know where you're getting the 1.9 from. I'd give you 12 outs. It doesn't matter though, because this is an easy call with just the flus draw.

LOL maybe that's why I stink at poker.

The chart I'm looking at has 9 outs as 1.9 to 1 on the turn and 4.1 to 1 on the river.

ok ok ok..we've established the trun call is clear.
even the OP knew it, yet titled his post to reflect his uncertanily.

I'd like ot once again suggest a new title:

"Should I have Raised the flop"

Yes. Raise this flop. Everyday.

Who's with me?

Not me. The last thing I want to do is put two cold to the field with A high on a draw. I'd rather have overcalls in this spot.

Now, if I'm closing the action or 2-3 folks have already called, I raise it all day everyday for equity.

Jeff

I agree with sysvr, I like calling the flop, and the turn also.

Just curious let's say this happens:

River: A:club:

SB checks, BB bets, What's our line?

Hey there!

Just a pre-coffee guess, but watch out for those charts where the turn means WITH TWO CARDS TO COME. That can be useful sometimes, but I think comes up more for No Limit and all-in situations. If you are just considering the card you are paying to see, the odds on the turn are usually just a tiny, tiny bit worse than the river (cause it's, say 6 outs out of 47, instead of 6 out of 46 cards).

Just my humble opinion, and saw a place to make a first post :shifty:

Actually, I'd be interested to know if some of you Limit Players here use the w/2 cards to come odds, and in what situations? Right now, I just play Low/micro limit.

Take Care,
R

FLOP - Call. Overcalls are good, you don't want to fold everyone in this case.

TURN - Easy call as well.

not sure I am.
You might have misread action and thought SB lead and BB called, making a raise more for equity/free card/clearing Aces, pretty good.

I see what you are saying though.
You might gain a couple Ace outs, however, with the opportunity to build a big pot with a draw that wins almost always if it hits, yet hits only 35%, blowing the field out could be overkill.

I don't hate a raise, and would love it in a 14 SB pot.....


keep working and thinking Actuary, you'll be alright.

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