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lvpro
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 4:11 AM) *
You guys seriously liked Maroon 5? I'm I like really out-of-touch with how many level of irony hipsters are working off of, these days? Because they bore me to the point of fury. To each his own, I guess.

Anyway, speaking of getting all my opinions from Pitchfork, I've been sitting on my thumbs, essentially since In Rainbows, waiting for them to tell me I like something. Well, today is that day, as I'm heavily enjoying Vampire Weekend, the highest rated album in months, I think -- maybe since Random Spirit Lover. I highly recommend, assuming I have any credibility beyond that of the people feeding me my opinions.


I've only heard one Vampire Weekend song (on a buddy's best of 2007 list), but I dug it. Solid.

I just got Explosions In The Sky's discography. Very excited.

Listened to a lot of Sufjan, Jon Brion (mostly the scores from I Heart Huckabees and Eternal Sunshine), and Pharoahe Monch yesterday.
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 7:11 AM) *
You guys seriously liked Maroon 5? I'm I like really out-of-touch with how many level of irony hipsters are working off of, these days? Because they bore me to the point of fury. To each his own, I guess.

Anyway, speaking of getting all my opinions from Pitchfork, I've been sitting on my thumbs, essentially since In Rainbows, waiting for them to tell me I like something. Well, today is that day, as I'm heavily enjoying Vampire Weekend, the highest rated album in months, I think -- maybe since Random Spirit Lover. I highly recommend, assuming I have any credibility beyond that of the people feeding me my opinions.




Nobody likes Maroon 5. Let's get that straight. They're like a safety word. No matter how many levels of hipster you do, not liking Maroon 5 must be mantained. I think it's a law of physics or something.

I'm going to check out Vampire Weekend. I think I lived next to them at school one year. Should have stolen a free album.
Don Giovanni
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 4:11 AM) *
You guys seriously liked Maroon 5? I'm I like really out-of-touch with how many level of irony hipsters are working off of, these days? Because they bore me to the point of fury. To each his own, I guess.


i think they suck. el guapo just asked what genre they were and we answered. i dont think anyone was really saying that they liked them. i do know a few people with otherwise good taste in music who try to say maroon 5 is good, probly just to seem ultra-hip.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 7:07 AM) *
i think they suck. el guapo just asked what genre they were and we answered. i dont think anyone was really saying that they liked them. i do know a few people with otherwise good taste in music who try to say maroon 5 is good, probly just to seem ultra-hip.



I don't mind them as background music, I don't know if I would buy their album. But when you have kids and you are used to listneing to Wu Tang, 2 Pac and even things like Tribe Called Quest are too explicit for a 2-3 year old too listen too.

So that means poppy stations are put on the XM and I have to find things I like inbetween the 100,000 times Daugherty or Fergie or that stuff is played too death.

That being said, most hip hop out right now is just white noise, it all sounds the same. And I do not have the time or inclination to keep up on it like I did 10 years ago when I would spend hours in Tower Record and buy issues of the Source magzine.

One thing I can say though is my range of music has opened up as I've gotten older, I was 97% strictly a rap hip hop guy in the 90's, now there is a lot of stuff I do not mind and actually enjoy other than that genre, but it is still my mainstay.
Dirtydutch
Guapo, have you heard Lupe Fiasco, yet? Not only is it good, somewhat smart mainstream hip-hop, but it's original (at least for the radio), and I would think as safe for the kids as hip-hop gets.
NickZepp
Led Zeppelin's O2 show
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Saturday, November 24th, 2007, 4:17 PM) *
Really? Man, I must've gotten hip without realizing it.

There's really not that much Ryan Adams out their that I like. His first solo record, Heartbreaker, is probably his best, but weirdly my favorite album is what I used to think was some kind of EP, but turned out to be a 5-track bonus disc from Gold. Gold is alright, but the bonus tracks alone back it a worth-while download/purchase.

I'm glad you liked it; I figured the most indie thing I could do was stick a country song or two on there.

I finally got around to getting Heartbreaker, and I really like it so far. its a little slow at parts, but its definitely good in my opinion. kinda reminds me of The Band for some reason, and that reminds me of being 16 and getting wasted riding backroads in the middle of nowhere. probably have to get Gold next.

Also, I got Hissing Fauna and Person Pitch. so far I've only listened to Person Pitch, and while its neat I guess, I don't think this is my kind of music. sounds similar somewhat to the Animal Collective I got, and its just a little too light as a whole for me. I gotta have some strong beats and whatnot thrown in there every now and again or I'll get bored.

QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 6:40 PM) *
Guapo, have you heard Lupe Fiasco, yet? Not only is it good, somewhat smart mainstream hip-hop, but it's original (at least for the radio), and I would think as safe for the kids as hip-hop gets.

yes. I've been touting lupe for quite a while now. there is some cursing in it though, so I don't think it would be totally safe. but still, everybody should have a listen.
Doug
Listening to tarantula by pendulum
RonBurgundy
been listening to a lot more instrumental type hip hop.

ive always liked ratatat, but im talking like diplo, rjd2, and the like is all recent to me. good though.


also as a non-music note, mr. show is hilarious (david cross' sketch show from mid 90's that was on hbo).
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (RonBurgundy @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 7:14 PM) *
been listening to a lot more instrumental type hip hop.

ive always liked ratatat, but im talking like diplo, rjd2, and the like is all recent to me. good though.
also as a non-music note, mr. show is hilarious (david cross' sketch show from mid 90's that was on hbo).


I like all of those things.
RonBurgundy
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 12:22 AM) *
I like all of those things.

thanks for the shout out on the trois coleurs trilogy. i had only seen the decalogue from kieslowski.

also on the tomato torrent. i havent figured it out yet but one day i will. work in progress.
lvpro
QUOTE (RonBurgundy @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 7:14 PM) *
been listening to a lot more instrumental type hip hop.

ive always liked ratatat, but im talking like diplo, rjd2, and the like is all recent to me. good though.
also as a non-music note, mr. show is hilarious (david cross' sketch show from mid 90's that was on hbo).


I've just recently started re-watching my Mr. Show DVDs. Classic.

I listened to some RJD2 while I was running yesterday. Didn't listen to enough to really form an opinion, though.
bobbywithani
The new Times New Viking record is great, although not as good as Paisley Reich
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (RonBurgundy @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 9:56 PM) *
thanks for the shout out on the trois coleurs trilogy. i had only seen the decalogue from kieslowski.

also on the tomato torrent. i havent figured it out yet but one day i will. work in progress.


I recommended those movies to a friend of mine a couple months ago, under the guise that they were a lot like Van Wilder: The Rise of Taj, but set respectively in different historical periods, i.e. 14th century Spain, etc. He was not amused.

(It should also be noted that I got him to watch Salo or 120 Days of Sodom by telling him that it was "like Johnson Family Vacation meets Army of Darkness, but with more jokes.")
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (bobbywithani @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 10:49 PM) *
The new Times New Viking record is great, although not as good as Paisley Reich


It's great, and I don't think I prefer it recorded properly, but I think it's too rough for me to ever listen to again.
ShakeZuma
it should be noted that I listened to Hissing Fauna this morning on the way to work. I really like what I've heard so far. kinda poppy but weird. the thought came to me that it sounds like what the beatles would've sounded like if they peaked in 1986.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Monday, January 28th, 2008, 3:40 PM) *
Guapo, have you heard Lupe Fiasco, yet? Not only is it good, somewhat smart mainstream hip-hop, but it's original (at least for the radio), and I would think as safe for the kids as hip-hop gets.



I have but only in passing, I wll check it out more, thx.

EDIT: I have heard and seen the video for kick push, also FWIW, my son loves the more up beat club hip hop thats on the radio e.g.

Flo Rida - Low (this is his favorite right now, he yells out that he want to here the low low song)
Mims - THis is why I'm hot
Shop Boyz - Party like a rock star
Chamillionaire - Ridin Dirty (this is the song we joke is about when he has a shitty diaper)
lvpro
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I have but only in passing, I wll check it out more, thx.

EDIT: I have heard and seen the video for kick push, also FWIW, my son loves the more up beat club hip hop thats on the radio e.g.

Flo Rida - Low (this is his favorite right now, he yells out that he want to here the low low song)
Mims - THis is why I'm hot
Shop Boyz - Party like a rock star

Chamillionaire - Ridin Dirty (this is the song we joke is about when he has a shitty diaper)


Two of the worst songs I have ever heard in my life.
mk
Ever since strategy was kind enough to hook me up with an invite to what.cd I've been downloading a bunch of highly-prized-but-out-of-print-and-therefore-only-obtainable-by-paying-ridiculous-sums-on-ebay audiophile masters of classic albums.

Highly recommend anyone who has an account there to grab these three immediately:

(Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited - DCC Gold Steve Hoffman Remaster)

The only pressing in history from the original master that I know of. Sounds AMAZING; sooooo much better than the initial CD transfer. You can hear the kick drum!!!

From an interview with Steve Hoffman about this album:

Could you explain the difference between that tape and the other so-called master tapes - the tapes that had been used to make the regular CD?

Well, even the original LP and all subsequent releases of Highway 61 Revisited were made, according to standard practice at the time, by taking the original tapes and transferring them, adding equalisation and adding compression, to make what's called the "cutting master". That means that the records were actually cut from a copy of the original master tapes. If they had tried to cut the record using the original tapes, the cutting stylus would not have been able to track all the information, so the cutting master usually would have the low end chopped off and the high end chopped off and the mid-range exaggerated. But then that cutting master tape would be labelled "Master", because in their eyes it was the tape that was used to make the records. So afterwards, any time anyone asked for the Highway 61 Revisited master tape - or, in fact, for any CBS master tape - that's what they got: the second-generation cutting master.

Now I, of course, knew that I wanted to use the original master tapes, the ones with the original mixes, that hadn't been EQ'd and compressed and all that. But it was hard to explain to the people who I had to deal with at Columbia. It's kind of a terminology problem. Anyway, eventually we figured out that of all the various tapes labelled "master" that they'd pulled from the vaults, the original master tapes, the ones that I wanted to use, were actually the ones in the boxes that were marked "Do Not Use" - hahaha! - because in their lingo, "Do Not Use" means "Original", and therefore unsuitable for the mastering and cutting processes that they had at the time. So it turned out that the tapes that I used to make my CD were actually better than the tapes that had been used to make the original LP! In fact, they had never been used at all since they were first copied back in 1965. I mean, it's pretty much the same album, of course, but there's just more information on the original tapes, so it sounds a lot better.


(Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's - MoFi UHQR Vinyl Rip)

Goes for $800-2k on ebay when you can find it. Sourced from original master as well. Incredible sound compared to horrifically tinny, reverb-drenched EMI CD.


(Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - MoFi UHQR Vinyl Rip)

OOOMMMGGG listen to this on a good set of speakers and crank "On the Run".
lvpro
I know I'm way behind on this one, but Wolf Parade's "Apologies To The Queen Mary" is awesome.
El Guapo
QUOTE (lvpro @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 11:20 AM) *
Two of the worst songs I have ever heard in my life.


Yes they are not musical mastery, but my 2 year old loves them and I can stand listening to them.

Trust me, its better than listening to Vegetales Silly Songs all day long.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (lvpro @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 1:46 PM) *
I know I'm way behind on this one, but Wolf Parade's "Apologies To The Queen Mary" is awesome.


That record gives me wood. Something obout the way the guitar and piano meld together on "It's a Curse" just does something to me, G.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (mk @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 3:12 PM) *
(Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - MoFi UHQR Vinyl Rip)

OOOMMMGGG listen to this on a good set of speakers and crank "On the Run".

thank you for posting how great they are but not an invite or a link to get it or anything that would help me. JERK.


less than three
mk
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 6:33 PM) *
thank you for posting how great they are but not an invite or a link to get it or anything that would help me. JERK.


less than three

i thought i linked?

as for invites i think they are closed at the moment but once they reopen jeffstrat would be able to hook you up. he is a powergeek or something on that site.
Dirtydutch
I'm sure I won't be able to tell the difference enough to actually care, but I have no problem pretending. Thanks, MK.
Dirtydutch
It should be noted:

When I was in high school and into Classic Rock, I really didn't like Pink Floyd. So I'm going to use this bad-ass version of DSotM as an opportunity to see if I was wrong.
checkymcfold
latest band i liked in or near college and have returned to because i hate all music is the boxcars' birds make good neighbors. blue bird, boxcar, and hold hands and fight are the 3 best songs on it, in that order.

and for the record, i fucking hate maroon 5, i just was helping guapo out smile.gif


also for the record, my girlfriend repeatedly has laid claim to having first said less than three all typed out-like, and will demand royalties from you, shake. i don't believe her, but i'm just warning you.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 9:04 PM) *
latest band i liked in or near college and have returned to because i hate all music is the boxcars' birds make good neighbors. blue bird, boxcar, and hold hands and fight are the 3 best songs on it, in that order.

and for the record, i fucking hate maroon 5, i just was helping guapo out smile.gif
also for the record, my girlfriend repeatedly has laid claim to having first said less than three all typed out-like, and will demand royalties from you, shake. i don't believe her, but i'm just warning you.


I was pretty sure I invented it, too, to confound MySpace assholes, but I've seen a lot of it around in recent years. I also thought I'd written the first negative review of Spiderman III, at one point.
checkymcfold
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 11:30 PM) *
I was pretty sure I invented it, too, to confound MySpace assholes, but I've seen a lot of it around in recent years. I also thought I'd written the first negative review of Spiderman III, at one point.



the first documented case of her actually using it was in an early IM conversation in our relationship, approx. 2 yrs ago. she claims to have used it prior, but i don't believe her.

i haven't seen spiderman 2 or 3. but i did watch 3:10 to yuma last night and really, really liked it.
strategy
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ShakeZuma
QUOTE (mk @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 8:51 PM) *
i thought i linked?

as for invites i think they are closed at the moment but once they reopen jeffstrat would be able to hook you up. he is a powergeek or something on that site.

yeah you linked to the invite place, but I was just being overly demanding for no reason. its one of my things. I love dark side of the moon. I actually think its one of the greatest albums ever.

QUOTE (checkymcfold @ Wednesday, January 30th, 2008, 12:04 AM) *
also for the record, my girlfriend repeatedly has laid claim to having first said less than three all typed out-like, and will demand royalties from you, shake. i don't believe her, but i'm just warning you.

oh I was just copying joeyjojo, I claim no rights to the saying. I do like it though.

QUOTE (strategy @ Wednesday, January 30th, 2008, 1:53 AM) *
pm me an email for when they do open again. I'll tell you how to not get banned, too!

dutch is not far from a ban.

will do!
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (strategy @ Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 10:53 PM) *
dutch is not far from a ban.


Yeah, I'm not uploading at all. It just sits there. I'm not sure what the problem is, but I don't really use the sight, anyway. Sorry.
strategy
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lvpro
Listening to "Yours To Keep" by Albert Hammond Jr. I digs it.
Mercury69
Never Stop - Echo and the Bunnymen
mk
QUOTE (strategy @ Wednesday, January 30th, 2008, 8:05 PM) *
no problem. could have downloaded the freeleech stuff or something, but it's not a big deal if you're resigned to that fate.

i too like pta more than the next guy but i am cot dam tired of adblocking your daily pta shrine.
Dirtydutch
Yeah -- I just took some Ecstasy

Ain't no tellin' what the side effects could be

All these fine bitches equal sex to me

Plus I got this bad bitch layin' next to me

-- No doubt, sit back on the couch

Pants down, rubber on, set to turn that ass out

-- Laid the bitch out, then I put it in her mouth,

Pulled out, nutted on a towel and passed out


God, I love Dre. It could be that I find him hilarious, or it could be that I love the beats, but this brings me to a question: how good/terrible will Detox be?
El Guapo
QUOTE (mk @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 4:05 PM) *
i too like pta more than the next guy but i am cot dam tired of adblocking your daily pta shrine.


It's just another case of that old pta

Dirtydutch
New Pornographers touring with Okkervill River? I'm sold.
Dirtydutch
Dutch re: Beatles; U2; Pink Floyd; etc.

I had a rather brief and extremely shallow love-affair with The Beatles about four or five years ago, which mostly revolved around over-playing 1 and The White Album, but never really got far beyond that, because I'd already heard enough of their joints on the radio, ad nauseum, that it kinda' took the punch out of it, and mostly sapped my will to explore too extensively.

This isn't to say that the effect of impact sterilization through the overplay of out-of-context Beatles songs isn't still largely present, for me, but Jesus, there's a lot of Merlin shit in that catalog. Abby Road, Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper's are all beyond bumpin'.

U2

I've stated pretty repeatedly that I hate U2, and find them to be incomprehensibly boring and overrated. That being said, I probably until yesterday never gave their more respected work a fair listen. So I downloaded Joshua Tree, and got high...

Well, there were still shaky parts that bored me, but there were other parts that captivated me. I'm by no means a U2 fan, now, but I can understand their appeal.

Pink Floyd

Floyd...what am I missing? I still don't get it. I find the instrumentals unpleasant, the lyrics trite and annoying, and the songs in general dated and sickening. I'm sure radio saturation is at play here too, but I still don't get it. Is there some kind of historical context I'm missing? MK? Help me out.
El Guapo
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 7:27 PM) *
Dutch re: Beatles; U2; Pink Floyd; etc.

I had a rather brief and extremely shallow love-affair with The Beatles about four or five years ago, which mostly revolved around over-playing 1 and The White Album, but never really got far beyond that, because I'd already heard enough of their joints on the radio, ad nauseum, that it kinda' took the punch out of it, and mostly sapped my will to explore too extensively.

This isn't to say that the effect of impact sterilization through the overplay of out-of-context Beatles songs isn't still largely present, for me, but Jesus, there's a lot of Merlin shit in that catalog. Abby Road, Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper's are all beyond bumpin'.

U2

I've stated pretty repeatedly that I hate U2, and find them to be incomprehensibly boring and overrated. That being said, I probably until yesterday never gave their more respected work a fair listen. So I downloaded Joshua Tree, and got high...

Well, there were still shaky parts that bored me, but there were other parts that captivated me. I'm by no means a U2 fan, now, but I can understand their appeal.

Pink Floyd



Floyd...what am I missing? I still don't get it. I find the instrumentals unpleasant, the lyrics trite and annoying, and the songs in general dated and sickening. I'm sure radio saturation is at play here too, but I still don't get it. Is there some kind of historical context I'm missing? MK? Help me out.


Wow I agree with Dutch. :baffledface:
lvpro
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 4:38 PM) *
New Pornographers touring with Okkervill River? I'm sold.


I just had an orgasm.

Wait.... oh God, I just had another one.

Edit: GODDAMNIT, they're not coming anywhere near here.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (lvpro @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 9:36 PM) *
I just had an orgasm.

Wait.... oh God, I just had another one.

Edit: GODDAMNIT, they're not coming anywhere near here.


I'll have roughly an hour's drive to an annoying ******* city (Athens is the scourge existence), but I think I'll make the hump.
Dirtydutch
Virgin Suicides OST is having its way with my asshole. It hurts so good.

Is there other Air stuff I should chick-a-chick-a-check, 'yo?
checkymcfold
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Friday, February 1st, 2008, 4:22 AM) *
Virgin Suicides OST is having its way with my asshole. It hurts so good.

Is there other Air stuff I should chick-a-chick-a-check, 'yo?



moon safari is their best album, imo, and the le soleil est pre de moi ep is super rad.

i also like premiers symptomes and talkie walkie. 10kHz legend is a bit weak, but it has one of my favorite songs by air: how does it make you feel.

now, go!
Speed Limit
I've been playing a lot of Rock Band so it's been leading me to listening to a lot of Rush, I've gotta go get some of their CDs now.
Dirtydutch
Talkie and Safari: downloading.
mk
in the process of editing/mastering best of 2007 cd, will post later today.
strategy
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mk
QUOTE (strategy @ Friday, February 1st, 2008, 2:03 PM) *
that bored, huh

true

mk's best of 2007 cd - [MP3/V0]

Tracklist:

01 - Flying Lotus - Tea Leaf Dancers [Reset EP, Warp]
02 - Matthew Dear - Deserter [Asa Breed, Ghostly]
03 - The National - Mistaken for Strangers [Boxer, Beggars Banquet]
04 - Spoon - You Got Yr Cherry Bomb [Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga, Merge]
05 - Radiohead - All I Need [In Rainbows, XL]
06 - Panda Bear - Bros (edit) [Person Pitch, Paw Tracks]
07 - Kalabrese - Hide (feat. Guillermo Sohrya) [Rumpelzirkus, Muve]
08 - The Shins - Phantom Limb [Wincing the Night Away, Sub Pop]
09 - Rufus Wainwright - Going to a Town [Release the Stars, Geffen]
10 - LCD Soundsystem - Someone Great [Sound of Silver, DFA/Capitol/EMI]
11 - Modeselektor - The White Flash (feat. Thom Yorke) [Happy Birthday!, BPitch Control]
12 - El-P - Up All Night [I'll Sleep When You're Dead, Def Jux]
13 - Burial - Ghost Hardware [Untrue, Hyperdub]
14 - Black Milk - Sound the Alarm (feat. Guilty Simpson) [Popular Demand, Fat Beats]
15 - M.I.A. - 20 Dollar [Kala, Interscope/XL]
16 - Apparat - Arcadia [Walls, Shitkatapult Strike]
17 - Sigur Ros - Hljomalind [Hvarf/Heim, XL]
18 - Jon Brion - Trial and Error [live at the Steppenwolf Theater, Chicago, crappy bootleg]

enjoy
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