Every once in a while I'll just do drugs a few nights in a row.

I like drugs, but I don't like them as much as most people do. Chances are, unless you are straightedge, hyperreligious, or under 17, you like drugs better than I do. I smoke my fair share of dope (aka, "weed, pot, ganga, green"), but I've always felt like the best part of being high is putting on a pair of headphones after everyone leaves and spinning as much music as I can. Oh, and stoned-porn is also awesome.

So, last night I got all high and listened to music. Alone. But I got really REALLY high, and listened to as much music as I could for 7 hours. And today, I smoked, and quasi-accidentally got all 'shroomed up. I've shroomed a few times, but I usually avoid it unless I'm in a position to control my environment pretty tightly.

Anyway, longstoryshort, I ended up in my room with a bowl, a megatrip, an iPod, filesharing, and a list of music..... A short list of impressions:

1) Spoon has always been one of my favorite bands, but I kinda skip them on my iPod alot of the time because they're so... sparse. And I like them so much. But I listened to at least 12 Spoon songs today, and I was instantly reminded why I loved them so fucking much. The space between sounds is so heavy... Only a handful of bands utilize emptiness the way this band does. The "rest".... Kills me. And Brit Daniels, what a voice.

2) I said this last night, but Scott Walker rules. See my brief review after an obsessive 90minute stoner listen last night. Last post.

3) "Morning of the Magicians" by The Flaming Lips might be one of the greatest songs for a 'boomed up musicfan to listen to. It was like looking in the mirror, except only like a third as intense

4)When I'm shrooming, I don't like Built to Spill or Broken Social Scene. It bothers me, because I love them both.

5) When I shroom, I love The Go! Team more than I love beer. I listened to the entire album. I was transported. Wow.

6) Dr. Octagon and Ghostface are also aweosme. I got annoyed with some of Ghostface's stupid stuff, but these were my two favorite rappers while shrooming. This is likely because I've been obsessing over them for the last few weeks or so. (shrug)

7) I listened to much of Sufjan Stevens's "Michigan..." while tripping. Most of it was pretty absolutely awesome. I hated Vito's Ordination Song, Holland, and Alonson Crooked River; I loved Upper Peninsula, Detroit, and Sleeping Bear. I live in Michigan, and have visited almost all these places, so my trip was extremely visual and awesome during this CD. I have to explore Illiinois and Christianity before the next tiem I trip...

8) The Glands. I'd heard them a few times before, but I really enjoyed the two songs I heard. "Swim" and "Two-Dollar Wine."

9) Oh, I forgot. Biggest surprise: Outkast- Ms. Jackson was one of my 2 or 3 favorite trip songs. At one point I found myself apologizing in cadence to all my ex-girlfriends' mothers, with a huge smile on my face. I may have been dancing. "Let bygones be bygones, you can can go and get the hell on you and yo' mama."

10) There's a good chance I've never been happier than when "Daft Punk is Playing at My House" by LCD SOUNDSYSTEM came up on shuffle. I actually cried. New rule: No more boomers for Wang?


I wouldn't make such a long post in this thread, but nobody else is posting, and I feel at least SOME responsibility for making sure this thread doesn't die.

So.

Cheers,

Wang

oh yea when i smoke i love to listen to lots of music. my freinds and i have a great tradition of burning a few awesome CDs with our favorite songs on them, smoking a ton, and then going on long car rides to nowhere in particular with the music blasting. doesnt get much better. oh and the last time we did this taught me that Soon by My Bloody Valentine is the greatest nightime driving song ever.

oh and a side note: im starting to get pumped up for the Belle and Sebastian/Broken Social Scene/Ted Leo concert im going to on July 8th

I've been revisiting my Pearl Jam discs lately.

Hey, Is their new cd any good, I havent heard anything from it, and I'm thinking of buying it?

I've only heard World Wide Suicide and I love it.

Yes, it is great. Easily worth the purchase.

I'm going to see Thom, Jonny, Colin, Ed , and Phil tonight. They will be playing here:



I'm a little excited.

I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes, I'm a bit jealous

You ******. I missed out on tickets for the Dublin gig. I hope you choke on your cries of joy.

I only get to see this lot. Life is so unfair.

Massive Attack
Damien Rice
Antony & the Johnsons
DJ Shadow
PJ Harvey
Young Blood Brass Band
Mogwai
Devandra
Deus
Dulsori Drummers
Todd Terje
Spank Rock
Fish Go Deep
Stereotonic DJ's
Crazy P Live
Digital Circus Live
Groove Armada
New Order
The Frames
Bloc Party
Belle & Sebastian
Super Furry Animals
DJ Shadow
Graham Coxon
Sparks
Gang of Four
Bodytonic Sound System
David Kitt
Mundy
Broken Social Scene
Dancepig
Jim Noir
2 Many DJ's
Tiefschwarz
Aberfeldy
Os Mutantes
Michael Franti & Spearhead
Gary Numan
Jape
Mad Professor
The Boy Least Likely To
Psapp
Tilly and the Wall
Semifinalists
Messian J & the Expert
Andrew Weatherall
Tapes N Tapes
Laura Izibor
The Rags
Krafty Kuts
Nathan Fake (live)
Yo La Tengo
The Skatalites
Corrugated Tunnel v Chymera
Hystereo Live
Radio Soulwax presents Niteversions SUNDAY
Basement Jaxx
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Pet Shop Boys
Gnarls Barkley
My Morning Jacket
Josh Ritter
Tom Vek
Laurent Garnier (live)
Rufus Wainwright
Elbow
Discotonic v Backlash
The Rapture
Saul Williams
Francois K
The Blue Nile
Amado & Mariam
Hot Chip
Coldcut
Pendulum
Richard Hawley
Alabama 3
Splitloop
Dublin Gospel Choir
Metro Area
Ian Pooley
Liam Frost
Charles Webster
Plus more..

Oh btw, I'm currently listening to Standards by Tortoise. I'm not a massive fan so far, maybe it will grow on me.

Nice. It's definitely a repeated listen type record. It's probably my favorite by them.

Dude, what festival is that lineup for? Pretty ridiculous.

It's electric picnic. http://www.electricpicnic.ie/flash.html

It'll be my first big camp-out festival, I'm really excited. But Radiohead mk. You're a lucky sod.

Maybe a little cheesy, but I have been listening to a greatest hits record of Tommy James & The Shondells since I got home from work. Guess I just can't get enough of "Crystal Blue Persuasion".

Also, ordered the Muddy Waters Anthology today from Amazon. I have a sparse amount of his stuff, and feel it's time I picked up something of his.

cross-posted in the sick thread, but i thought you guys would want to hear about it.

So Radiohead was pretty amazing last night.

Setlist:
01 You and Whose Army?
02 The National Anthem
03 15 Step
04 Morning Bell
05 Exit Music (For A Film)
06 Open Pick
07 Videotape
08 Knives Out
09 The Gloaming
10 Nude
11 Down Is The New Up
12 Paranoid Android
13 Bangers 'N Mash
14 Like Spinning Plates
15 Spooks
16 Idioteque
17 There There


Encore 1
18 A Wolf At The Door [Thom, "Dedicated to people way up top"]
19 4 Minute Warning
20 Bones
21 Lucky [Thom thanks The Black Keys]


Encore 2
22 House of Cards
23 Everything In Its Right Place ["Forever" scrolls across geometric shaped screens]



I highlighted two new songs that absolutely floored me. "Videotape" is this gorgeous, atmospheric thing with Thom on piano, and Ed was sampling what Thom was playing and then running it backwards so it sounded almost like a string section. Ridiculous. The new album will be the hottness. Other highlights were There There, Everything in Its Right Place, Bones, Exit Music and Morning Bell.

I saw them in Indiana once, and they ended their first set with "The Bends" and it was unbelieveable.

When I saw them, I was shocked by how much more I liked "The Gloaming" live than on the album. To be perfectly honest, I kinda hated the studio version.

Everything in It's Right Place is a pretty cool closer, too. The Forever thing is nice.

Wang

The Eraser - Thom Yorke

Meat is Murder - The Smiths

Apologies to the Queen Mary - Wolf Parade

While playing poker, of course. Life is gooooood

its been a while
right now
brian eno- another green world

i didnt think i would like this guy because i generally dont dig on this kind of stuff as much as i used to but it sounds great right now.

lately
bob dylan- live at royal albert hall 1966
devendra banhart- cripple crow
nico- chelsea girl
film school-film school
prince
broken social scene
orange juice- glasgow school

Have you listened to Before & After Science by Eno? If you like Another Green World, I bet you'll like it as well....

....also, I know I've talked about it before, but Brian Eno & John Cale's collaboration album is fantastic.

I'm sort of a "Here Come the Warm Jets" sort of guy, but I would say that Another Green World is my second favorite. I really like his new album "Another Day on Earth." Check it out if you like anything else he does.

you, sir, just made my day, month, and possibly year. i thought psapp broke up. when you're in ireland, tell them to put out another ****ing album already.

second, i am still absolutely obsessed with serena maneesh and the now-not-so-new rosebuds album.

also, i didn't so much like standards, although it's pretty wicked live.

and finally, i think it should be mandatory for all involved in this thread to last.fm their signature.

Today I'm listening to Biggie's "Life After Death"

Currently on disc 2, Going Back To Cali.

Against Me - Wagon Wheel, originally written by Bob Dylan is a very good song

Anyone else think MMJ is totally overhyped and really not that great?

I love Biggie


I gotta get that.

well, that depends. whats MMJ?

I kinda dig what I've heard, but I agree that they're overhyped.

yes, me. i was really excited to see them live the first time they came to my undergrad. i'd read reviews but never heard them.

they walked on stage, and i was like, ok, here comes some good 70s rock. but it wasn't. i was, like, super unimpressed, and got in a few fights with uberfan friends about my opinion.

so no, you're not alone.

I am a big fan of My Morning Jacket. I saw them open for Pearl Jam a couple months ago and was extremely impressed.

I have been listening to nothing but Fleetwood Mac today. Let me clarify, nothing but pre-Stevie Nicks and pre-Lindsey Buckingham Fleetwood Mac. For those of you who don't know, they used to be an amazing band before they got all lame in the mid-70s. Peter Green is one of the best blues guitarists of all-time, and I dig the Bob Welch stuff as well (have had the song "Sentimental Lady" stuck in my head today for some reason). Too bad that Peter Green and Danny Kirwan got too drugged up or Fleetwood Mac would have gone down as one of the greatest blues-rock bands of all-time, instead of being remembered for the most overrated album ever created, Rumours.

I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and say the most overrated album ever is Nirvana's Nevermind.

That's not too far of a limb - you'll find many people agree with you, me being one. I can live with Rumours being the 2nd most overrated album ever.

It's more of a limb considering I live in Seattle, and saying something like that in public is like saying you hate the Pope when you're in Vatican City.

This surprises me from both of you (the Nevermind/overrated thing). Grohl's drumming alone means that it really can't be overrated, imo. Then again, I have kind of a man-crush on him. But seriously, the first time I heard those snare fills in Smells Like Teen Spirit (when I was like 11 years old) it pretty much changed my life forever. I couldn't believe how hard he was hitting the drums.



I saw them do the same, and I was pretty bored. I enjoyed Pearl Jam despite the fact that I hadn't listened to them in probably 12 years or so. I was given a free ticket, and I went mostly just to see MMJ, but then I enjoyed PJ more. Weird. It was funny to see a band that still writes guitar solos, lol. It made me want to go home and practice those classic Mike McCready licks from my youth. Ahh, the nostalgia.

edit again:

I see there's a new Cex record out this week. Not sure if you guys are familiar with his stuff but it's pretty cool electro. He's kind of psychotic, but the music is fun, and he has song titles like "Florida (Is Shaped Like a Big Droopy Dick For a Reason)" and the new album is called Actual Fucking.

im entering another radiohead phase i think

I just got both Audioslave albums. It took me this long to realize I like them... I was huge Soundgarden fan, back in the day.

Me too. And by entering, I mean I've been in one ever since I heard the opening riff of Airbag on OK Computer (the first album of theirs I got). It's been pretty much non stop.

Ditto Kiddo.

Wang

i like me some soundgarden. and i have a soft spot for audioslave.

I just went Early 90s on everyone's collective as[size=2]s[size=2] today.

I sat on my porch and blared:

"Vitology" Pearl Jame
"In Utero" Nirvana
"Badmotorfinger" Soundgarden
"Core" and "Tiny Music..." Stone Temple Pilots

It's like traveling in time, baby.

Wang

Nice. I've just started going back to my early 90's (for me, late 90's) roots. I didn't even listen to music 'til 8th grad. Is that weird?

Not at all. I didn't listen to music really until the middle of High School, and now I'm a huge music elitist. Go figure.

I agree that Dave Grohl's drumming is amazing, and I'm a pretty big Grohl fanboy myself, but I think Kurt Cobain doesn't deserve the press he gets. He's an OK guitar player and a half-decent songwriter, but I don't see him as the greatest rock musician ever, like he's touted to be by some people, especially around this area.

My favorite band in 8th grade was Metallica.

My favorite band in 9th grade was Led Zeppelin.

My favorite band in 10th grade was The Who

My favorite band in 11th grade was The Kinks

My favorite band in 12th grade was The Dismemberment Plan

And so forth.

Freshman year was Radiohead. 5 years later... (shrug) finally found one that stuck




I've always been very anti the whole "CobainBacklash" thing that seems to be so ubiquitous within the "in the know" music fans, especially over the last 5 years. Don't get me wrong, I'm among the most pretentious and elitist of all music fans, but I was YOUNG when Kurt Cobain ruled.... and I remember the effect his music had on me and my friends.

And, going back, I'm still struck by how completely pretentiously unpretentious their work was. I've almost persuaded myself a few times that I think Nevermind is "so overrated," but everytime I sit down and listen to it I'm blown away by how ingenious the songwriting and simple musicianship is. It's completely different than anything I'd heard until then, and it fulfills so completely its goals.....

Also, it's 9Am and I am drunk and tired, so...

Wang

See, you're like me. We're so elite in our music taste that it's okay to think that Nirvana rocks. It comes full circle.

It's kind of like in poker how terrible player play too many hands, and then when you become a good player you tighten up. And only the best players in the world can get away with playing tons of hands. Nirvana is playing a lot of hands.

Does any of this make any sense?

My friend and I developed a whole theory based ENTIRELY on this idea. It's called the theory of Levels. Let me explain (lengthily):

It's genesis is actually, appropriately enough, in music.

A Level ONE person would think/say: "Man, Nirvana and Pearl Jam ROCK!"
He's not thinking about it very much. He likes Nirvana. Other people like Nirvana. Nirvana's cool, and it's cool to like them. Part of the reason he likes them is BECAUSE other people like them. Fair enough.

A Level TWO person would think and DEFINITELY say to his friends: "Man, Nirvana is so overrated. Everyone thinks they're all that, but significantly more talented but underexposed and obscure bands like Dinosaur, Jr. are much better musical acts. Anyone who thinks Nirvana is one of the best bands of their generation, let alone all time, is an uneducated fool, and I pity him..."
The Level TWO person is characterized by his unwillingness to appreciate anything TYPICAL or COMMON. In fact, most Level TWOs refuse to admit to liking anything MAINSTREAM at all. This is the basic personality type of the alternative hipster. Alternative, but mostly for the sake of being different.

A Level THREE response would be: "How about this, Gus? Nirvana fucking rules because they're fucking sweet, and anyone who disagrees is just a bitch baby poopdick too concerned with appearances."
A Level THREE person is fully comfortable with his own range in tastes, and cares nil about perception. He might enjoy more obscure music, and even dislike most popular music, but he feels that way NOT because he's afraid of being too mainstream, but because he ACTUALLY enjoys what he says he enjoys, appearances be damned. He "comes over the top" of a Level TWO in this case, to use a poker metaphor.



This theory can be applied to almost everything. The person who who feels how he feels because OTHER people feel that way, regardless of the issue, is a typical Level ONE. The man who feels how he feels because other people DON'T feel that way is an archetypal Level TWO. And the man who refuses to let public opinion sway his judgment of an issue is the epitomal Level THREE.


It works in sports, too. Level ONEs hop on bandwagons. Level TWOs are terrified of being bandwagon hoppers. Even more importantly, they're incredibly worried about being perceived as or LABELED as bandwagon hoppers, so they react violently in the opposite direction, expressing disgust with fairweather fans. They will never admit to cheering for a popular team, player, or Cinderalla Story. But the Level THREE man has no qualms about what people think, and act accordingly. A Level THREE might get caught up in the Red Sox 2004 Championship run, or find himself rooting for George Mason during their improbable run to the 2006 Final Four. But he forms his opinions completely unpretentiously, and makes up his mind completely independent of popular sentiment.

I must also mention that a person who generally forms Level THREE type opinions may fall into stereotypical Level TWO traps. He may do so frequently. So it's best to apply the formula on a case-by-case basis. Try not to look at it as "Dude, that guy is such a Level TWO" but rather as "Man, that's such a Level TWO thing to say/do."

If you keep this in the back of your head, you'll start to notice all sorts of things that fit perfectly into the paradigm. It really applies to almost everything.

Think about it.

Wang

i like nirvana but ive never really thought of them as anything more than a good band.

okay here's my rundown. when i was about 2 and a little bit before (basically as soon as i was talking), my favorite band was The Police. my mom had a videotape of them and i would always yell "pa-peeeece! pa-peeeeece!" to demand to watch the tape again.

when i was about 4, i got into eric clapton (hugely), and i loved his stuff so much that i began playing guitar and writing music. i memorized his unplugged album and so forth.

it was in first/second/third grade that i got into the early 90's rock scene, my favorite band being nirvana, but also stuff like greenday, alice in chains, STP, soundgarden, etc.

in 4th grade i started listening to nine inch nails and i was hugely into them, they were absolutely my favorite band ever. i was super all about NIN, and a friend of mine at the time also mentioned a little band called Tool to me. i had only heard Sober on the radio at that point and i didnt really like it, but i figured i'd give it a chance.

The Fragile came out when i was in 5th grade, and NIN continued to be my favorite band until i got Undertow by Tool....then AEnima. in 6th grade Lateralus came out and i realized that absolutely no music could ever top that of Tool. it was in 5th/6th grade that i met Jason Newsted of Metallica and actually recorded a CD with him, so i got into Metallica as well. so basically throughout middle school i had a very closed taste in music, liking Tool, NIN, some other rock, and also expanding my horizons with classical music, cause i was playing violin at a music day school as well.

9th grade was more of the same, and when my brother left for college when i was in 10th grade, he came across some new music that he sent to me. bands like dredg, the mars volta, and porcupine tree.

I listened to porcupine tree a few times, wasn't exactly hooked, and then i bought their newer album Deadwing in 2005, and i realized that PT is absolutely without a doubt the best band of all time. and thats basically what i'm listening to these days. here is a list of my 10 favorite bands:

1. Porcupine Tree
2. Opeth
3. Tool
4. Nine Inch Nails
5. System of a Down
6. Radiohead
7. A Perfect Circle
8. Dredg
9. The Mars Volta
10. Alice In Chains

and there you have it.

Tool.

Wang

PS- I would have replaced Radiohead, too, to make a more coherent point, but I think I'm physically unable. It's probably a disease.

i tried listening to relationship of command and i really didnt like it at all. i liked the song about the wishing well (cant remember what it was called) and one-arm scissor is ok, and the song with the bassline is good, but i really don't like it. i think ATDI is basically like volta, but way less polished, more chaotic, more stupid, and more bad.

oh by the way, the radiohead show at the greek on 6/23 was really sick, but i thought the setlist was pretty stupid and uncohesive. thom's voice was superb though. i love radiohead.

one more thing: wang, the theory of levels is awesome. truly amazing, i'll have to share it with my friends.

I couldn't disagree more.

I really, really like De-Loused, but I couldn't get into Frances the Mute. That said, I would choose any ATDI album over Mars Volta.

This thread got goot last night. Wang's theory of levels is sexiness and something i've discussed with friends as well.

I like to add the Level 4 thinker to the musical discussion, if only to separate my pompous ass a little further. Level 4 musical thinkers listen deeply enough and are familiar enough with the business of making records that they can find admirable qualities in otherwise TERRIBLE songs--usually songs that are hopelessly mainstream, songs that the Level 2 and even level 3 listener would NEVER admit to liking. Can you get with the keychange at the end of "My Heart Will Go On"? Does the barely audible arpeggiated synth line in the chorus of Robbie Williams' "Rock DJ" give you a semi? Can you absolutely despise Linkin Park but still admire the stupidly perfect guitar tones achieved on their records? Do you know that it was Andy Wallace who mixed both of their studio albums--the same Andy Wallace who mixed Nirvana's Nevermind???? Then you are probably a Level 4 musical thinker.