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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9:spade:, 9:diamond:. MP1 posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9:heart:, K:heart:, Q:heart: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) A:spade: (3 players)
Hero bets

Read - Villain is 25/3/0.59 after just 32 hands. Ok, so no read.

Give me a line for the rest of the hand please. And a bottle of anything. And a glazed doughnut.

Jeff

3-bet turn, call cap...

UI, c/c if capped, b/c if he called the 3-bet, and no heart falls on the river...

Obviously, if we improve to a FH or Quads, pump the pot!

Zach

i agree to 3-bet the turn

a raise here is often aces up or even top pair

Yeah, I like Zach's line. I would have probably said the same if someone else posted the hand, but I was on passive tilt and missed a bet or two.

Jeff

Hmm...

I'm going to go against the grain and say you should just call the turn raise. I have my reasons.

First, what do you think UTG's most likely hand is given this board. I think Ahxh, or JT. He's usually coming in for a raise pf with another set, AK, and AQ. I also think he will occassionally raise KQ.

So, you're typically looking at the following hands:

AhJh
AhTh
Ah8h-Ah6h
Jh8h
8h7h
JT
KQ
AJ-A9
K9s

Although, I don't think this villian is raising this scary board with less than 2 pair on the turn. Therefore, I think AJ and AT are unlikely unless their hearts. AQ is more likely than AJ/AT without the flush.

I think it's really close. I know it's only a small amount of hands, but his passiveness seems to indicate that the strongest hands should be weighted more heavily than the weaker ones. Against a more aggressive opponent, I would 3-bet here without a second thought. Against this guy, I think a call is in order.

If the board pairs, I would check/raise/call the river. Otherwise, check/call. The reason I would just call a river 3-bet is because it is likely you are now up against two pair that turned into a FH.

Somebody give me my balls back.

I'm with screech on this one, and I don't think it's that close. I think this is a flush more often than it's anything else.

Call down UI, c/r R if the board pairs, and call a 3-bet (cap with quads of course, and calmly shut down your computer and go have a beer when he shows you JhTh).

im only calling the turn raise as well.

what do we do if a fourth heart hits on the river? (not the :heartsa: obviously)

Ok, this one is hard for me to analyze objectively. I honestly see both sides, and knowing results is not helping matters.

I called the turn raise. Looking at the PF action and his smooth call on the flop I thought there was entirely too much potential for him to have a small flush or JT. I think if either the straight or the flush is there, I would have 3-bet it, but with both of them out I just couldn't pull the trigger.

The river was a non-heart and did not pair the board. I (ack!) check/called. Hey I was going with my read, what can I say.

Villain showed two pair (I don't even remember which two) and I took it down.

Something I have been doing lately is assigning values to my hand in terms of big bets. For example, I think my hand on the turn here is worth a total of 4 big bets. I don't want to put more than that in total after the river without filling up. So if I bet/call the turn and bet/call the river I put in the 4 BB I have assigned, thus getting value out of good hands and losing a reasonable amount when the board is scary like this.

Is that (smash term here) mindnumbingly stupid or a reasonable solution to this type of hand?

Jeff

Nevermind. Me no read good.