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wrto4556
Co has decent stats. Button is kind of LAGish but not too bad. SB has TAGish stats.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7:club:, 6:club:.
1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 8:club:, Q:heart:, A:club: (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 4:club: (5 players)
SB bets, SB calls $38.50 (All-In), hero?
checkymcfold
eek. if there was ever a time to fold a flush on the turn, it'd be now. i probably call this, undisciplined bastard that i am, and check out the river action (call one bet on the river, not 2+). there's got to be a set and probably a bigger flush out there, but this pot is MONSTER.

at least you're not drawing dead, though, if you decide to call. 2%, baby.
Don Giovanni
try to get to showdown putting in the least possible amount of bets and hope you win. i think the pots to big to fold with a chance at having the best hand and 1 out to the SF. you can dump your hand if the river is another club.

it does look like you are beat by a higher flush right now, im not sure if i could fold it though.
vanilla icely
Folds.

It is a monster pot, but the only thing you're drawing to here is th 5 icon_suit_club.gif .
With 3 other people in the pot, and all those raises, there is no way one of them doesnt have a better flush. What are you doing on the river if a blank hits? Presumably you couldn't call 4 bets there, so you should be folding on the turn after you get cold raised by MP2, who is then cold reraised by MP3!
Only call all these if youre willing to show down the 7 high flush.

I just don't see how you could possibly think youre ahead here...
MrNiceGuy
Hmmm....

SB probably doesn't have a flush, or he'd have played the flop differently. Likely 88, A8, or Q8. But it seems like at least one of the MP's almost has to have a flush (although a set or a naked Kc would at least be possibilities).

You probably need to have the best hand presently at least 10% of the time to justify a call here. (The 5c gives you almost 1BB of equity between pot odds and implied odds when you are behind. So if you call here and call one on the river, you'll be wagering 2 bets against about 30 that you have the best hand presently, and even then you still may need to dodge 33% of the deck on the river.)

Given that AA and QQ are unlikely holdings for the villains, and out of the 28 possible flushes your opponents could have, you only can beat 3 of them, I think this is a fold. I have to think it's a very small fraction of the time that you'd win a showdown here. But calling here and calling one UI on a safe river can't be that bad.
Smasharoo
I'm folding to three cold here, and smashing the monitor with a sledgehammer if I river a straight lfush.

good luck.
wrto4556
this was the longest i ever sat for a limit hold'em decision. I really was about to fold and then my roommate told me "hell no the pots too big!" so I called down and got shown A icon_suit_diamond.gif ,T icon_suit_club.gif and AQ.

freak accident?
No_Neck
QUOTE (wrto4556)
this was the longest i ever sat for a limit hold'em decision. I really was about to fold and then my roommate told me "hell no the pots too big!" so I called down and got shown A icon_suit_diamond.gif ,T icon_suit_club.gif and AQ.

freak accident?



HOLY BUDDYLIST!!$@#!
Bubba83
Is this a standard preflop call? I generally toss this hand in the same spot. Was this table just loose enough to play this hand or have you been able to make profit with this hand after 1 limper at tighter tables too? I'm not qualified to comment on anything else, just wondering about preflop.
pokerplayer24
QUOTE (wrto4556)
this was the longest i ever sat for a limit hold'em decision. I really was about to fold and then my roommate told me "hell no the pots too big!" so I called down and got shown A icon_suit_diamond.gif ,T icon_suit_club.gif and AQ.

freak accident?


Crap like this is why I call the turn.

Even if this has some heavy action on the river we're still most likely looking at something like 8:1 to call down.

Edit: not being results oriented really. Just with the pot this big we're going to be up vs way way overplayed hands often enough to call down.
pokerfeeva
... And in a pot so large, in amongst players who are typically quite aggressive postflop anyway, I would have to call down.

If the opponents in the hand were passive postflop type players, then I would be more worried about all the turn action, since they are unlikely to be capping with such ferocity without a near nut hand.
HoosierAlum
Am I the only one folding to 3 cold on the flop here?
vanilla icely
QUOTE (HoosierAlum)
Am I the only one folding to 3 cold on the flop here?


Jesus no - totally missed that! 3-bets on the flop with a 7-high flush draw? I'm out like Elton John...
Bubba83
You have to figure out how many players will likely still be calling despite it being 3 bets. It looks like there will be 3 players heading to the turn for sure, quite possibly 4 and maybe 5. I think it depends on the reads we have on MP2 and MP3, will they call two more cold after putting in 1 bet? If the answer is yes, I think it's an easy call, even if only one of them calls the 3 bet that means 4 players are headed to the turn and we're doing fine with a flush draw.

Still waiting for wrto to talk to me about preflop!
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