I folded KK playing a house tourney style game Sunday night before going out and enjoying the New Year bash a buddy was having at his studio in Minnie.

I hated it, but I felt I had no other play to make. Here's what happened.

(Not a big money game guys, sorry, we can't all be big rollers.)

Specifics are we are ten handed, we all start at 2000 chips, $10 in, 1 $10 rebuy allowed, four or five hands in and already some stacks are leaning heavy and one guy has re-bought already.

I look in the hole of my BB and see the Kowboys (I notice there both black and leave it at that, it won't play into the story). UTG raises 150, there are 3 callers before it gets to me I raise to 300, UTG re-raises to 450, there is one caller and I think about going all in, and instead call.

Flop is rainbowed A 10 5 (to be honest I don't remember the bottom button on the flop but it didn't play into the hand, so it's moot) and I bet out 600 (about half the pot) and he raises me all in. (About that other player, he started moving his cards towards the muck once I bet, he didn't call the UTG) I think about it and look at my chips. I finally gave him credit for an Ace and what was probably a good kicker. I fold and say, "Hey baby, nice Ace." and he shows me his hole cards of KT offsuit.

I didn't say anything, think I might have said, "Eh, I was beat." But I did stew over that for several hands especially as I had sunk half of my stack into that last pot...I should have called, hey still early enough to use that re-buy...I should have called...

Now on the bright side, no one knew I got jacked. Or tened as the case may be. Also, I came back without ever using a re-buy and got heads up with the only other guy at the table who didn't use a re-buy. It was getting to be near 10pm and with New Years plans on both parts we decided to chop as we were both even stacked and now heads up.

However, I made abad read and that sticks with me. Was it a bad read simply because of hindsight though? I don't know.

From what I know of this guy (The Villian UTG of the story...and I have sat with him many times) he is loose and hectic erratic loose. But he starts most games very tight. He only gets crazy with his stack once he gets a roll going, and at this time he had been very reserved. My guess preflop was that he had AK, AQ or something along those lines when he raised and then re-raised from early position like that. Maybe just a pocket pair (which by his actions could have setted the board, another thought I had), but he wasn't playing loose aggressive classic his style.

So the only thing I can think to take away from this is, I made a bad read one time early, but good reads and good plays after that got me to the finishing spot and paying for my New Years debauchery that insued later that evening.

Los

I hate ur preflop action

raised to 150 and i reraised it to 300

Please don't do that it

Push it man or at least make a significant raise

all in pre flop

otherwise check fold the flop

I understand where your coming from, honestly. Most everytime I play top pocket pairs preflop I go half my stack to all-in, and usually I take down 4-5 bets including blinds and those that limp. At those times, the blinds are worth something. At those times the level is near the vicinity of 100/200 blinds.

But consider this, blinds go up every 10 minutes, and as slow as the table play was, it was a wonder we were making 6-7 hands in ten minutes. Blinds are still at 25/50 and I wanted to take a good pot for my good hands. Knowing that it was narrowed down to 3 of us going into the flop was a good thing for me, I think.

Every single player that folded to your raise to 150 is an idiot. The fact that you thinned the field is besides the point. That bet should not have gotten anyone out unless they were playing complete rags. You need to raise more here atleast if you're not going to push. I'd pop it to 600 or so. and check/fold the flop. if i'm villain with position with 99, I'm taking you off an Ace high flop every single time here. Just one of those things about getting KK and QQ in the blinds. can't really represent an Ace very often.

Folding KK w/ an Ace on board is no great achievement. I agree w/ the others, your play pre-flop was atrocious. If it's raised 150 to me and I have KK I make it at the very least 500, but probably 600 like everyone else said. When are people going to understand min-raising is a TERRIBLE play?

I don't think it's fair to say that it is such a terrible play knowing the guys at the table (which I did) and for the bottom rung limit that it was (and they didn't fold to my 150 raise, the original bettor re-raised me 300 for others to call for a total of 450 for a hand to see the flop).

Maybe I didn't make the best play, maybe I should have gone all in and tried to take it right there (instead of simply calling 150 more, hey there is already over 900 sitting in the pot with 450 from the UTG and 450 from one caller, to me....all in probably would have been the best move leaving approx 1100 for someone to call, I might have walked with the pot right there, if not, I'd be heads up with a good starting hand).

I justify my play by saying the pot isn't big enough so I call, but the pot was. Clearly I played that hand incorrectly.

However, the point is, I think, sometimes you get put into a position to make that kind of call. And in this case it isn't a bad beat because I didn't play my hand that aggressively, I didn't play it correctly...but that didn't matter. You can make a mistake and not stick yourself entirely. There is time for redemption I guess. I'm not trying to brag about folding KK by the way. I'm talking about making a table read and playing off of that.

that's my bad. I misread. Still does not change that the raise is awful. Which makes me realize another mistake in the hand. If the action got that big, with action to you, and 2 people still in, you need to push here in a tournament style set up.

With the flop, I don't think you can represent an ace with a raise out of the blidns. PP's raise out of the blinds more than AK. Therefore, C/F is a better line IMO with three people in.

If you're going to fold to a min-raise by the "ace", you shouldn't probably bet it out on the flop.

I hate the min-raise too.

I probably get this all in preflop, but, that's just me.