Anybody got a converter that works with FCP?

Anyway, here's the hand cleaned up...

Hero is Hijack with K J

Preflop

5 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls

Flop

6:club: T:spade: Q:diamond:

Hero checks, button checks

Turn

6:club: T:spade: Q:diamond: 6:heart:

Hero checks, button bets, Hero calls

River

6:club: T:spade: Q:diamond: 6:heart: A:club:

Hero bets, Button raises, Hero ???

No read on villain.

Jeff

Hero: Calls

To get 3-bet then have the guy check is weird. Usually a sign of strength. AK the only reasonable hand in his 3-betting range that didnt hit at least has 2 overs and a gutshot and will most likely bet.

More often then not you'll see QQ or 1010 here.

3-bets

Too bad you weren't in position here. If you'd made the ugly end, or if it hadn't been a scary ACE that came off on the river, or you were pretty sure he was going to bet this, you would've been better served c/r-ing the river.

I think I probably try check/raising anyway, just because I want to put the second bet in, not the 3rd

Wang

EDIT: I looked at the postflop action again. I lead thsi river.

You dont think our opponents flop check is suspicious? All but the most passive opponents flop a continuation bet.

And yea checkraising this makes it a whole lot easier.

Hero bets the flop.
How can so many good players (Ice, I mean you) fail to see this as a big leak.

Your line on the flop should be bet/call.

Now, he checks behind on the flop, which is a lost bet, and you check the turn. A line on the villian would really help here, but I can't think of a type of player I would check this hand twice in to.

You need to learn how to press the bet button. It's usually right beside the check button, its circle and has the word "BET" in the middle.

Why? You don't really think I'm putting in two bets there for value, right? And I have zero fold equity.

Jeff

Two bets?
Fold equity?
Are we looking at the same hand?

You bet because you should take the lead when you flop an OESD with an overcard out.

You are correct sir. I went right to the river and didn't bother with anything else. If you'll notice, I had to edit my initial post because I didn't see the weirdo flop line taken by the Button.

I usually alternate between check/raising and leading this flop, depending on the player. I probably check-raise more often than I bet, for myriad reasons.

Absolute, as the action went on the flop, how would your turn line have looked?

S.Wang

I doubt our overcard is good very often, but I'm still fuzzy on why you think we should take the lead... you think villain will fold? You think it's for value? You just want information... there has to be a reason but you haven't given it yet.

Anyway, I didn't lead the flop or turn... so what's your line on the river?

Jeff

You mean, if I checked the flop and got checked behind (god that hurts), would I miss another betting opportunity on the turn?

It's not a coincidence the word 'Absolute' contains the word BET.

C'mon, you know me better than that.

Most hands that take this preflop action against us are either ahead and suspect it (in which case we're drawing uberlive), or are actually behind now to our overcards and draw. They might even think their underpair is no longer good.

Which is why WANG prefers check-raising. 88/99/AK are a little more frightened when we c/r//lead.

Wang

Wait a minute... YES IT IS!!

Indeed. I was merely asking so you could answer, young turk.

The biggest disaster on the planet here is if the villian has a hand like TT or 99, declines to bet the flop, becomes suspicious of our turn bet and calls it, and decides to make a river crying call when we whiff.

That usually makes me puke a little in my mouth. But I think almost all TAGs bet this flop.

It's not a coincidence that TheIceman has HeMan in it... in order, no less.

Wang

EDITED

you are right about the overcard out, its not good enough of the time. But I still bet/call the flop.

usually ill 3bet unless the villians line is somehting like 14/7/.5

I would check raise the flop and keep the lead all the way unless he 3 bets.

Flop is very suspicious. Not sure what to think...

Turn i probably bet. No real reason why, although he sometimes might c/c AK the whole way (assuming you have some piece of this flop and he wants to save bets. I know, pathetic thinking, but i swear ive seen it).

I like leading the river, we don't know for sure if villain is slowplaying a monster yet. just call a raise.